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Most of you here have some idea of what I am about. Shy in some situations, brash and upfront in others, pretty physically oriented, and, maybe...fearless. Or at least, unintimidated :) .

Here is a little bit of backstory about me. The company I have been working for is really good. Great people, locale is second to none (visitors think they are at a resort), and the workload is not over bearing. However, the pay leaves something to be desired. My job description right now is program administrator. In addition to the regular daily work hours, I often put in hours from home, am called to provide tech support for users on the weekend and nights, and basically am happy to work for what I am getting paid, but had promises for more. Both my boss and the HR manager have noted I am doing an excellent job. My boss also told me he would be putting me in for a raise and COLA increase so I can buy a home. Ok, and for someone who manages the program that has given the company double the revenue, acceptable.

But, as the new raises came out, I am not pleased, or even satisfied with the raise. Me, as a program admin, am making less than $39K per year. Yes, I know that is not shabby, but with my raise not even covering inflation rates of 2006 and my desire to stop renting and buy a home, I really cannot do that on my own. And given a program admin in my region makes, at minimum, $55K, I am left wondering what happened to my promised earnings increase.

My desire is to be financially independent, not worrying about the next paycheck, having things come up and not having the money for them, etc. So, this is what I am planning and would like your opinion. Most of you on here are of sound intelligence and we have spoken so your opinion would have some weight to my decision. Politics play no role in this, btw.

I am debating (and trying to find my resume in e-form now, for submission), to apply for a job in Iraq. This is more than a whim, this is an opportunity to take a huge step forward financially for myself.

Now, domestic concerns. First for most people, family. I dont have one. I have not spoken to my brother or father in 3 years and do not desire to do so again. They are venomous people and I have learned much from them to make myself a better man. My mother, the only thing she called me for was for money and to front her to buy HUD homes so she can rent them out. After asking for if that was all she was calling for, I told her she can call if she has anything else to talk to me about. She has only called once as her car broke down, in the past 1.5 years.

Responsibilities...I have one, my lease. And I am only on the lease as a partial renter as there are two other roommates here. So I can leave and it will not have any adverse reaction on me and neither will a forced breaking of the lease need to occur. And as of May, the lease is up and will not be renewed anyways. Also, I am a minimalist, so I have very little of anything that matters to me, possession wise. Everything I own I can put into storage for the 1 year contract I would sign.

Now, potential detractors. Death, of course. Maiming, and that is a fear worse than death. I value my physical abilities very much. Lack of companionship. I met someone over the weekend (on a blind date), and we had a great time. We both have the same sense of humor, interests, and feel comfortable around each other. I don't love her, and really, how could I this soon, but she is intelligent, pretty, and has characteristics which interest me. But I am interested in settling down and she appears to have the same goals in mind. Friends...my life's blood. I value them very deeply and do care incredibly for them. But they are just friends.

Pluses. Money. Average salary for me in a likewise position would reap between $150-$220K, and the first $80K is tax free. Even if I stay for just 1 year, it would enable me to buy a nice home outright (or by secured loan) and allow me to educate myself, increasing my value to corporate America upon my return. International job opportunities and getting a job while becoming a resident of another country. There is a month of paid time off, and destinations are anywhere in the world with the means to do it.

This is a big step, and I do want to do it, but I also don't want to miss anything in my thought processes. Of course the job and salary level do dictate if I take the job or not, but I am thinking it will be good for me. And with a high turnover rate, promotions are rapid (as are pay increases).

I have to lookout for myself and live my own life for me. Not for my company, my boss, my friends, or a beautiful woman. What is your opinion?
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Wimpy369 said:
I will say this... it's obvious men and women take a much different stand on issues like this. :eek:
Hey! I agreed with you, and I'm a woman. :confused: :p ;) :D
Wimpy369 said:
Damn you got balz. :up: I'm willing to stick my neck out and love fishing but not that much. :eek: Most dangerous job in the world from what I've read.
It is and was :D

And I came to the epiphany one day out on the deck...no amount of money is worth risking so much...life is dangerous enough without increasing my chances of death by occupation.
vbneteng said:
Rob, if I go, may we could meet up somewhere and grab...a bite to eat. What is there to eat over there, anyways? Wouldn't that be some funny stuff, two TSG-ers from seperate continents meeting in a war zone for a cup of coffee. :D
I'll have the coffee on :D The base I'm going to has a Pizza Hut and a Subway apparently! There may be some local restaurants....but I'm not sure that'd be a great idea! ;)
Wimpy369 said:
Wouldn't be a good thing to have happen but going through life pondering " what if's " doesn't make sense. It that were the norm then you risk your life every time you crawl out of bed. Don't get on a plane as they kill people, don't drive or ride in a car for the same reason, don't walk on a sidewalk because you might just wipe out on a crack and break your neck, don't talk to your boss about the small raise you got because you might get fired. Life is full of risks and challenges that can only be judged by those facing them. Most people think they know their limits but in reality they don't. People do amazing things in the face of adversity and most people love a challenge.

I will say this... it's obvious men and women take a much different stand on issues like this. :eek:
There's nothing wrong with seeing the reality of a career change. It's not paranoia..it's foresite.

While saying your last words before the blade starts cutting your neck..Would you be thinking to yourself...damn...I should have done anything back in the states vs. coming here?...Mickyd's would have been a better idea
:D

Are you saying that you are a woman? :confused:
:D
Well.... John.... it almost sounds as if your mind is made up. If your boss isn't going to come up with the cash.... it sounds like you are going. *sigh* I can't help but be concerned for your safety. But.... you are an intelligent man. You know what you want and what you can and cannot deal with. I wish you the best in whatever path you choose. May all your dreams come true, and may you always find what you are looking for. I have but one request..... please.... keep in touch. :eek:
I will keep in touch, of course. I will still have internet access so I will still be on TSG. I will post up pictures and talk to people. Y'all will be the easiest way for me to keep my sanity. Words and discussions to take my mind away and put my body at ease.
I'll look to keep posting here too (if I'm allowed to!) - maybe we could have a "Report from Iraq" thread.....
izme said:
There's nothing wrong with seeing the reality of a career change. It's not paranoia..it's foresite.

While saying your last words before the blade starts cutting your neck..Would you be thinking to yourself...damn...I should have done anything back in the states vs. coming here?...Mickyd's would have been a better idea
:D
Mickyd's... now that takes guts to work there.

izme said:
Are you saying that you are a woman? :confused:
:D
Excuse meeeeeeeeeee! You trying to start something I can't finish? :D ;)
Wimpy369 said:
Mickyd's... now that takes guts to work there.
lmao...no doubt :D

Wimpy said:
Excuse meeeeeeeeeee! You trying to start something I can't finish? :D ;)
Hey Buddy...I've seen you hold your own :D
izme said:
Hey Buddy...I've seen you hold your own :D
I thought you were talking about a physical confrontation. I got a pat answer for that....
" Because of my age I have about 15 seconds of fight left. If you have 16 I give up real fast.":D
Wimpy369 said:
I thought you were talking about a physical confrontation. I got a pat answer for that....
" Because of my age I have about 15 seconds of fight left. If you have 16 I give up real fast.":D
:D

funny how when you get older...a New York second becomes a lifetime :eek: :D
You like your job, and the people you work with, and where you live.

Most people spend years searching for that kind of situation... some never find it.


Just curious, if you are sharing living expenses(rent), and are a minimalist, and are making 39k/year... shouldn't you have enough saved for a home purchase by now?

Anyway, I wouldn't go, but that's me. Money has never been a motivating factor in my life. Who I'm with, and where I am, is what it's all about.

If I were you, I would ask for comparable compensation... if you don't get it... maybe set your sights on one of the 55K jobs in your area.

If you do end up going to Iraq, I wish you good luck. Be safe.
Weel you could look at jobs here in New zealand ,,there are a lot of IT jobs in wellington at the moment and the lifestyle would be better. mind u would have to drive on the right hand side of the road but thats not a biggy. And we are one of the safest countrys in the world at the moment
Wake me up and save me from the darkness..and I'll take the safer road less travelled...toward the light of positive change..instead of playing in the flames of certain inevitable danger.
vbneteng said:
Many things I do people would doubt the sanity of, and I really have no desire to take a psych eval ;)

I have a friend over there now, and he is fine. This February will be two years for him and he has no horror stories to report. He does say there is loneliness in the desert, but I am used to that (being alone, anyways)
Believe it or not I'm considering the same move. I have the opportunity to go over there as well, however I'd be making less money but I would be helping a nation become independent. Someone I know just got back after 6 months there and loved it, she wants to go back as soon as possible. I had a bother that ran oil cities in Saudi Arabia and built the US embassy in Morocco, he also loved it and said it was the best experiences he ever had.

The woman that I know who just got back from Iraq says that 99% of Iraq doesn't have the violence like shown on TV. Most soldiers she says are bored.
trekguy....I would, but am plagued with a bunch of stupid little things. like today, my car was towed because the parking sticker fell out of the window. that cost me 200, no exceptions. I hate the complex I live in, they find every excuse possible to punish the tenants.

I can't even bring a date home on good conscience as her car has a damned good chance of getting towed. the nearest visitors spot is a 20 minute walk away.

and, I do like going out and living it up...another drain on the acct. plus I had to buy a new computer as my last one bit the dust.



half...I would DEFINTELY be down for NZ, I just don't know where to look. any link or info would be incredibly appreciated. or if you know someone looking, I can forward my resume to you.
trekguy said:
You like your job, and the people you work with, and where you live.

Most people spend years searching for that kind of situation... some never find it.
I agree with treguy. Money isn't everything. I have an idea when you talk about family that just wants money from you. We have someone like that in our family.

I personally wouldn't go down there because I would want to come back after 2 years, in the same fiscal and mental state.

And you are going into a war zone.

I 'd tell you to come to Alberta Canada. They are short on what ever you want. :eek: :D Including housing.
gb, thanks for the input!

bushlady, it is easier and better for me to go this route. I rely on myself and have only myself to blame for problems.

also, I would not be coming back in the same fiscal state. the reasoning for going is to make more money to provide a huge boost in securing my future.
vbneteng said:
gb, thanks for the input!

bushlady, it is easier and better for me to go this route. I rely on myself and have only myself to blame for problems.

also, I would not be coming back in the same fiscal state. the reasoning for going is to make more money to provide a huge boost in securing my future.
If you come back.......... you make it sound like you're going to the corner store :rolleyes:
He can make money in Albeta just like in Iraq, the only difference is he wouldn't be in a war zone in Alberta. He is single. So all he needs is a room to crash at night.

I heard on TV. That there were married guys that came from the east coast. Left their families. They went to Alberta to work. These were four guys living in a, I think, a two room apartment. They took the money they had left and sent it home to their wives and kids. They were working shift work, so they also were sharing the beds.

You can do the same thing in Alberta that you want to do in Iraq.
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