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Updating laptop hardware for 3d modelling and rendering

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Hello

I recently started 3d modelling and rendering, and these programs require higher specs than just document work obviously.
I'm quite ignorant about the details of that, so I have some questions.

Now I'll be upgrading my memory/RAM.
I read I may also need to upgrade my VRAM, but when I checked I found that GPU is the same as VRAM. And GPU takes the burden of all graphic-related tasks just as its name. And that's to relieve the CPU from taking the load instead.

Now I'll be focusing on Architectural visualization and rendering. I may have these short presentation scenes in rendering, but I mean I am not working with animation in general.

- So, is it recommended to upgrade my GPU?
- And when it comes to RAMs, I can see the grades as in 4gb, 16, 32..etc. What are the levels in GPU and how to know or distinguish?
- When it comes to brands for either RAMs or Graphic cards, then which is the best? Kingston, Corsair..etc. And what is this full specs about?
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We know nothing about your laptop's description and its hardware, so please do the following in it:
Download and save the tsginfo.exe file.
After it's been downloaded and saved, double-click it to run it.
Information about your laptop will appear.
Return here to your thread, then copy-and-paste the ENTIRE text here.

In most cases, the only hardware upgrade options you have in a laptop is to add more RAM and switch from a HDD to a SSD.
Upgrading its CPU or GPU is usually not an option.

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As flavallee noted, we know nothing of your computer, other than it is a laptop. But that alone may be enough to quash your hopes. Laptops are notorious for being proprietary with very limited, and often no upgrade options. :(

For modeling and rendering, a PC is really the way to go if for no other reason than the very limited cooling capabilities of a laptop case.

but when I checked I found that GPU is the same as VRAM.
Where did you see that because that is not true - in fact, it makes no sense.

GPU = graphics processor unit. That is the main processor used by the graphics solution. It is similar to the CPU, but dedicated for graphics processing. It may be mounted on a separate graphics card, or integrated with the CPU.

VRAM = video random access memory. VRAM is/are the memory device(s) used by the GPU. It is separate from the GPU therefore not the same. Some graphics solutions have dedicated VRAM devices used exclusively by the GPU. This is always the case with graphics cards.

Integrated graphics solutions (the more expensive ones) may have dedicated VRAM. Less expensive solutions do not and instead steal... err... share some of the motherboard's system RAM.

Many laptops these days use "surface mounted" components. This means the devices (such as RAM, GPUs, CPUs, etc.) are directly soldered to the mainboard and cannot be upgraded. You are stuck with what came in the box.

But without knowing more about your system, we don't know your options.
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@Digerati Sure. Thank you very much for your insight. It was needed and very helpful !

I generally know that a laptop isn't upgradable as a desktop is, and it is not recommended for work. I just don't happen to have a desktop. And my laptop was a gift anyway.

I'll use that mentioned to upload my laptop specs.
@flavallee Okay.

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Tech Support Guy System Info Utility version 1.0.0.9
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 11 Home, 64 bit, Build 22000, Installed 20211210204248.000000+180
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz, Intel64 Family 6 Model 142 Stepping 9, CPU Count: 4
Total Physical RAM: 6 GB
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
Hard Drives: C: 229 GB (26 GB Free); E: 246 GB (178 GB Free);
Motherboard: LENOVO Torronto 5C1, ver SDK0J40700 WIN, s/n PF0P5JN4
System: LENOVO, ver LENOVO - 1, s/n PF0P5JN4
Antivirus: Windows Defender, Disabled

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Just a note about anti-virus, I have premium Malwarebytes subscription.
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OS Version: Microsoft Windows 11 Home, 64 bit, Build 22000, Installed 20211210204248.000000+180
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz, Intel64 Family 6 Model 142 Stepping 9, CPU Count: 4
Total Physical RAM: 6 GB
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 940MX
Hard Drives: C: 229 GB (26 GB Free); E: 246 GB (178 GB Free);
Motherboard: LENOVO Torronto 5C1, ver SDK0J40700 WIN, s/n PF0P5JN4
System: LENOVO, ver LENOVO - 1, s/n PF0P5JN4
According to your log, you have THIS Lenovo IdeaPad 510-15IKM Machine Type Model 80SV00MMAX Laptop.

According to its support site, it was originally purchased in December 2016 and came with Windows 10 Home 64-bit.

According to its product specifications section, it came with:
Intel Core i5-7200U 2.50 GHz dual core processor
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6 GB(4 GB + 2 GB) DDR4-2133 MHz RAM
1 TB(931 GB) SATA 5400 RPM hard disk drive
NVIDIA GeForce 940MX graphics (4 GB video memory)
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From what I can determine, its 4 GB module is soldered to the motherboard and is not removable.
However, its 2 GB module is removable and can be replaced with an 8 GB module so it can run with 12 GB of RAM.

According to your log, it appears to have a 512 GB(476 GB) SATA hard disk drive or solid state drive which is divided into 2 partitions.
Is that correct?

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Yes. If I add both partitions I have this number (476) GB.
I don't know the details exactly, but a friend recommended upgrade so I think I have an SSD now.

So, I assume you mean I cannot have a memory higher than 12GB. Where I'm looking to have 16 GB RAM at least.
Which means I should switch to a desktop, correct?
Yes. If I add both partitions I have this number (476) GB.
I don't know the details exactly, but a friend recommended upgrade so I think I have an SSD now.
Go into the Device Manager, then expand the "Disk drives" entry.

What is the exact name of the storage drive(s) listed there?

Once we have that information, we can confirm if your laptop's storage drive(s) is HDD or SSD.

So, I assume you mean I cannot have a memory higher than 12GB. Where I'm looking to have 16 GB RAM at least.
With the exception of the Crucial site, all the well known memory sites that I've checked say your laptop supports a maximum of 12 GB(4 GB + 8 GB) of DDR4-2133 MHz RAM.

If you want to spend the money and take a chance that a 16 GB module will be accepted and work, that's your choice.

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I generally know that a laptop isn't upgradable as a desktop is, and it is not recommended for work.
On the contrary, laptops tend to make great "work" computers and are often ideal for "Office" tasks like creating Word documents, Excel spreadsheets, and PowerPoint presentations. And of course, being portable, are often ideal for work and school where the computer needs to go to work and come home every day.

They just often don't make good "desktop replacements" despite how they are marketed in part for the reasons stated above, but also because laptop cases are so restrictive when it comes too cooling.

I cannot have a memory higher than 12GB. Where I'm looking to have 16 GB RAM at least.
Which means I should switch to a desktop, correct?
There are laptops that support 16GB and more. It just appears yours does not. That said 12GB is typically considered a big chunk of RAM.

I recommend you run the Crucial System Scanner. This will scan your computer, tell you what you have for RAM and recommend possible upgrades. If you buy from them, they guarantee compatibility. This may be particularly important this time since, as flavallee noted, when manually entered it says your system will accept adding a 16GB stick for 20GB total. If the scanner says the same thing, that may be a good option for you. But if the scanner says you can only add another 8GB, check to make sure you have the latest BIOS firmware version.

Also note last time I used this tool was for my MSI laptop, and Crucial's price was $10 less than Amazon's! :)

Most other RAM makers have similar RAM wizards as do some RAM retailers.
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