[pyritechips]

Personally? I am now convinced that Bush is suffering from some form of monomania. He is still caliming that Saddam "had missiles" with which he was going to use "WMD" against the U.S.? He has to say "terrorist" and "WMD" every second sentence? He insults the intelligence of every free-thinking person in the world.

Same old tired rhetoric. He doesn't have the balls to admit that Iraq and Al-Qaeda are completely different issues. He has lost all credibility with me. Bush had better go down in Nov.

 

[pyritechips]

LOL Bush just invoked a Holy War! He said "Freedom isn't America's gift to the world, freedom is the Almighty's gift to the world!"

It's also funny that he gave such a moving anecdote how he pinned the medal on the wounded soldier, who declared his desire to get back to his unit. Coincidence, because I was just reading this:

More grim statistics appear, such as the number of suicides and attempted suicides among U.S. troops. Lynda Hurst explains in an article in the Toronto Star that 24 American soldiers – 22 men, two women – have killed themselves in Iraq in the past year. The suicide rate among soldiers in Iraq has reached 17.3 per 100,000, higher than in the jungles of Vietnam, way higher than in the Second World War. And the suicide rate in Iraq is growing. A year ago, the suicide rate among soldiers in Iraq was 12.8 per 100,000.(Read more here...)

 

[valley]

seems like this isnt going to be any kind of discussion at all Jim but more of a running commentary

I'll keep my opinions to myself....

 

[GoneForNow]

seems like this isnt going to be any kind of discussion at all Jim but more of a running commentary

I'll keep my opinions to myself....

Ditto.

 

[FlashyGirl]

Jim, based on some of the other threads and posts, I just can't see you, or some others, taking an objective perspective to his speech. LOL. But that's OK, I still like ya.

 

[pyritechips]

I just can't see you, or some others, taking an objective perspective to his speech

Not objective? Bush is the one that keeps repeating what is known to be untrue. How is exposing his lies not being objective?

 

[Izme]

well, I think he made alot of valid points about Iraq! :up:

did some side stepping but that is to be expected.

This is the right thing to do for the entire world

The motives of our Nation are still not totally clear but I do see alot of good coming from this.

So I will put aside all of my notions of a bad president and back the US and it's allies in this!

One thing that stuck out in my head was when he said that he believes all people of this Earth long for freedom. I believe that also. Maybe this will not happen completely in Iraq but at least we gave them a good start and freed them from a bloody regime. I just hope that another Ruthless regime will not take it's place. I trully believe that alot of Iraqi's want this change. But then you have the extremist's that will do anything to ruin it.
as our prez said. We cannot back out now! What would that say to the world and the extremist's? We must see this through to the end what ever it may be. And send a message to the world that our world can be a better place free of bloody regime's and extremist freaks ect. therefore strengthening all of humanity ect.

 

[EdGreene]

In a couple of places, he expanded his "Iraqi Freedom" vision to include the whole world.
He also invoked God in his now larger vision of bringing his seeming meglomaniacal "message" to the whole world.

Scary, what?

 

[rextilleon]

Bush is scarey and you are scarey----tell us how the Jews bring commerce to a standstill during the Sabbath--you made that statement and you refuse to support it with any evidence whatsoever.

 

[plschwartz]

1. did he tonight suggest that there was a connection between al Quada and Iraq
2. Has any evidence been presented which you feel substantially supports this connection

These are two statements which involve facts not opinions so Val GB FG etc please jump in. please

 

[Izme]

In a couple of places, he expanded his "Iraqi Freedom" vision to include the whole world.
He also invoked God in his now larger vision of bringing his seeming meglomaniacal "message" to the whole world.

Scary, what?

sure he did and those words are alarming to say the least. Maybe he should be alittle more articulate in his words. I have seen him say some stuff that made us look like bullies ect. and really slip up sometimes

perhaps we must lead by our compassion and humanity also, and stray away from the religious notions that have plagued this planet for many a century?

The bottom line is we are in it up to our necks now and there is no turning back. It will be a long road, but as a collective and humane world perhaps we can change it all for the better in some way. Regardless of words in a speech.

 

[John Burns]

Why at least can't he (GWB) take some of the responsibility for 9-ll and apologize? Everything is so black and white with him - damn, it must be great to be so "out of it" and not even know it.

 

[Izme]

Bush is scarey and you are scarey----tell us how the Jews bring commerce to a standstill during the Sabbath--you made that statement and you refuse to support it with any evidence whatsoever.

This whole jew (hate that word) thing is so wierd to me, from the roman empire to the nazi's in germany to the resurgance of hatred for jewish people is so damn stupid to me. How long must we suffer prejiduce and this kind of naive way of thinking? We are all children of god regardless of race or? Period!
I wish that people would wise up and rid their hearts of this very wrong way of thinking. Especially with the my religion is better bull!

so sad.

how many more must die in this type of ignorance?

 

[rextilleon]

THe reason for this press conference tonight (the first since October) is because BUsh lost 7% to Kerry in a poll that came out recently. Big-whigs in the Republican Party are running a bit scared as they see their leaders popularity plummet. If Kerry doesn't put his foot in his mouth, then I truely believe that he is the next president of the United States. I have always been one who felt that the claim that history repeats itself is absurd and flies in the face of a different set of variables in each period. In this case, I will ammend that and say that George Bush will go the way of Lyndon Johnson. I suspect that BUsh will attack Sadr anyday now----to firm up his base.

 

[Izme]

Why at least can't he (GWB) take some of the responsibility for 9-ll and apologize? Everything is so black and white with him - damn, it must be great to be so "out of it" and not even know it.

I have a hard time with that

I do not think that anyone wished for all of those people to die or that we were totally negligent in our actions prior to 911

I am sure that we waded through piles of intelligence of many kinds, and still am. They may have caught us off gaurd this time and will again probably, but how can I put blame on anyone other than these terrorists for this atrocious act? It was random and so will the next one be. Who the hell knows where when or how it will take place? many many variables ?

I blame the freak terrorist's!

 

[rextilleon]

Izme---my parents were from Holland, and they were much involved in rescuing Jews during the Second World War----I find it very difficult to sit by and watch radicals on both the right and the left preach their hate. I know what happens when people don't stand up to bullies like Greene at the get go.

I do not like Bush----but I do not blame him for 9/11. Could he have done more---yes---but the same could be said for Reagan, Clinton, Carter etc.

 

[valley]

Why at least can't he (GWB) take some of the responsibility for 9-ll and apologize?

I believe he did admit that they should have been more prepared for it. Does that make him guilty for the deaths of all of those people? I dont think so. Why should he apologize?

 

[Izme]

Izme---my parents were from Holland, and they were much involved in rescuing Jews during the Second World War----I find it very difficult to sit by and watch radicals on both the right and the left preach their hate. I know what happens when people don't stand up to bullies like Greene at the get go.

I do not like Bush----but I do not blame him for 9/11. Could he have done more---yes---but the same could be said for Reagan, Clinton, Carter etc.

well, hell no Rex, how can we blame Bush for extremism and terrorist's? these freaks will just look for someone else to kill if not us!

That is so cool your parents helped the jewish people, I would have and will stand up for any jewish person or anyone being unfairly treated because of religion or culture ect.
Damn it, when will we learn that we are all equals under god? one's perception of that truth is not a right to persecute or kill ect.

what does the WORD say?

 

[pyritechips]

I don't believe Bush was responsible for Sept 11 attacks and I also don't think blame can be laid on anybody for not predicting and preventing it.

But when he was asked what, in his opinion, was his biggest mistake he hmmmed and hawwwed and said that if he was asked ahead of time he could have thought up something. Very telling! All his announcements sound too scripted and insincere, as if he is merely reciting somebody else's thoughts. His rhetoric and delivery are smooth enough when rehearsed but he can't seem to think of anything original off the cuff.

 

[Izme]

I am not sure I could answer that question either

first of all it is hard for a prez to show weakness to the world, would rather side step it.

that was a tough question

can you believe this? I am sticking up for GWB?

In the matters of 911 and Iraq I must! As an American!

Who could have known this was going to happen? especially on the exact day and time? How many other attempts have we and other countries foiled?