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I'd like to keep this thread as a chronicle of events and projections, how to address avoidance and how to react if infected.......not a 'scare' or 'hopeless' scenario.

Coronavirus is spreading.

Some current events:

US prepares for possible coronavirus pandemic, WHO officials say Iran outbreak 'worrisome'
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/21/coronavirus-latest-updates-outbreak.html

I usually shop in the early morning hours during the flu season to avoid crowds.
I am up to date on my flu and pneumonia shots, while they don't address coronavirus, I suspect it helps in avoiding complications with them.

( you all stay well )

Edited by Adminstrator Cookiegal with approval from the thread starter to include a link to the Johns Hopkins University's interractive map which is constantly updated to show the current statistics around the world:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Second edit to add link exclusive to the U.S.:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map
 

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Some info from The Guardian

What is coronavirus and what should I do if I have symptoms?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ptoms-wuhan-china-how-does-it-spread-covid-19

This stands out:

We don't yet know how dangerous the new coronavirus is, and we won't know until more data comes in. The mortality rate is around 2% in the epicentre of the outbreak, Hubei province, and less than that elsewhere. For comparison, seasonal flu typically has a mortality rate below 1% and is thought to cause about 400,000 deaths each year globally. Sars had a death rate of more than 10%.

Should we panic?

No. The spread of the virus outside China is worrying but not an unexpected development. The WHO has declared the outbreak to be a public health emergency of international concern. The key issues are how transmissible this new coronavirus is between people, and what proportion become severely ill and end up in hospital. Often viruses that spread easily tend to have a milder impact. Generally, the coronavirus appears to be hitting older people hardest, with few cases in children.
 

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Just a caution.

I've noticed politically biased commentary being published.
Best to take advice and information that is derived from experts in the fields of medicine and communicable diseases rather than posers.
 

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I've noticed there's a lot of scaremongering going on
I agree, there are some folks around here that won't even go a local Chinese restaurant even though the folks that run them are born American of oriental decent, haven't traveled at all because they work too hard to have time off.

It's kind of silly, unless you travel or live near a major travel city, or otherwise at risk from what is known so far.
It doesn't hurt to be cautious, but IMHO a good portion of the US population would be more in danger of the seasonal flu rather than coronavirus.
 

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I suggest Drew Pinsky be recognized for what he is, a self promotion artist.
Look to recognized health organizations for information.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ve-speculation-about-hillary-clintons-health/

He even has attacked Trump.

https://globalnews.ca/news/2862461/...ld-trump-and-his-supporters-are-mentally-ill/
:LOL:

And there is this:
Dr. Drew talks potential congressional run against Schiff - but only if he has to
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-kn...ssional-run-against-schiff-but-only-if-he-has

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And there is this: Pinsky's being promoted by Rush Limbaugh
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/02/28/dr-drew-pinsky-debunks-the-fake-coronavirus-news/
Pinsky:
We used to point at the way Indiana responded to the opiate and the HIV epidemic as the model for the country. I don't know what they're talking about. The only reason I felt comfortable with Pence as Vice President was I was aware of his track record in Indiana in handling these serious problems, and they handled them better than most states did, almost any other state. So, I don't know what the hell people are talking about. That is fake news.
Consider:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...n-hiv-outbreak-means-for-his-coronavirus-role
Five years later, Indiana's public health funding ranks 49th out of all 50 U.S. states for public health funding per capita, according to the Trust for America's Health. ( edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_for_America's_Health )
Consider Pinsky as Fake News.

imo, he's looking like an attention whore with political ambitions.

Of course Trump wants all quite on the economic front.
With a market in decline, those with large debt loads have a lot to lose.

Of course, the Press needs to be accurate.
Of course the experts need to take the situation seriously.
But for Dr D to emotionally cry out 'Shut up' seems an argument for politically motivated ignorance.
 

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Please, keep this thread oriented to the issue of a health problem, not the rants of self promoters like Pinsky or Mike Adams the Health Ranger.
 

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It is health oriented. You can't dispute the fact more people die from the flu than COVID19. This is acknowledged fact. Where is the yearly hysteria around the tens of thousands that die from the flu? He has gone on record to say in the video I posted is you don't have to listen to him. Listen to Anthony Fauci. I'd sooner believe him than many of the mass shills that are looking for click bait or to drum up viewer ship. He has better established credentials than many of the alarmists.
 

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It is health oriented. You can't dispute the fact more people die from the flu than COVID19. This is acknowledged fact. Where is the yearly hysteria around the tens of thousands that die from the flu? He has gone on record to say in the video I posted is you don't have to listen to him. Listen to Anthony Fauci. I'd sooner believe him than many of the mass shills that are looking for click bait or to drum up viewer ship. He has better established credentials than many of the alarmists.
How about posting links to credible sources that define the issues rather than politically motivated provocateurs?
You seem to argue in that vein, so why post the scare tactic of Pinsky?
 

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Scare tactic? I think you're the one looking to fear monger people. He's trying to give a dose of reality that people are blowing this way out of proportion. How is that trying to scare people? I don't need to post anything else as what he says in those videos are spot on.

He says people should practice proper hygiene. Wash their hands. How is that fear mongering? How is the total deaths from COVID19 so much more significant than the repeated yearly deaths from the flu? How is tha fear mongering? There is already a vaccine in phase 1 trial being tested in humans. I can tell you as a cancer survivor that I wish drugs would be rushed as fast as this vaccine has been. How is that fear mongering? He states cleary the ultimate authority everyone should be listening to is Anthony Fauci. How is that fear mongering?

You should follow your own advice about keeping this factual around health and put down your own political bias. As it's clear you can't separate your own politics from facts.
 

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Scare tactic? I think you're the one looking to fear monger people. He's trying to give a dose of reality that people are blowing this way out of proportion. How is that trying to scare people? I don't need to post anything else as what he says in those videos are spot on.

He says people should practice proper hygiene. Wash their hands. How is that fear mongering? How is the total deaths from COVID19 so much more significant than the repeated yearly deaths from the flu? How is tha fear mongering? There is already a vaccine in phase 1 trial being tested in humans. I can tell you as a cancer survivor that I wish drugs would be rushed as fast as this vaccine has been. How is that fear mongering? He states cleary the ultimate authority everyone should be listening to is Anthony Fauci. How is that fear mongering?

You should follow your own advice about keeping this factual around health and put down your own political bias. As it's clear you can't separate your own politics from facts.
Scare tactic?
Indeed!!!
For political advantage.

I think you're the one looking to fear monger people.
You can think what ever you please.
But look at what you posted versus what I post and ask of you.
You failed to realize who you presented in videos.
Is that what you want to do?

How is that trying to scare people?
Rather obvious to me.
It's about steering people's vote in the next election by not trusting recognizable authorities.
You merely presented a political argument whether you realize it or not.

I don't need to post anything else as what he says in those videos are spot on.
You seem to be proving my point.
'The press should only be disseminating the thought's of Trump.'

How is that fear mongering?
It's an issue of 'trust'.
He's presenting himself as the source while denying the press to quote other authorities...Fauci seems to be included.

There is already a vaccine in phase 1 trial being tested in humans.
See what I mean.
You do not seem to understand the process of development of a vaccine and the time it takes from development to trials to actual production.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/basics/test-approve.html

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-long-will-it-take-to-develop-vaccine-for-coronavirus
I've read elsewhere a rush job that goes well could take a minimum of 8 months.

I can tell you as a cancer survivor that I wish drugs would be rushed as fast as this vaccine has been.
Who wouldn't.
And I can tell you I absolutely will not use my own health issue as an argument in any manner in this thread!
Yours as mine are irrelevant to the issue of a vaccine for the present coronaviris.

You should follow your own advice about keeping this factual around health and put down your own political bias. As it's clear you can't separate your own politics from facts.
I suggest you reread the BS you first posted and compare it to the rest of this thread.
 

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Ultimately, if there are any concerns, people should be talking to their doctors about this. Not clicking on click bait articles and threads on Internet or media outlets looking to drive up viewership.
Indeed.

Include BS videos of politically motivated individuals with medical degrees.
 
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