I belive B version is the standard now

http://www.alatec.com/info/rj45.html

As far as cable is conscerned, Use B for one, the remaining 2 pairs will be used for other.

IN RJ45 jacks, make sure the pinout are standard wiring

 

Also, use my magic tool and connector that I specified earlier

 

I belive B version is the standard now

http://www.alatec.com/info/rj45.html

As far as cable is conscerned, Use B for one, the remaining 2 pairs will be used for other.

IN RJ45 jacks, make sure the pinout are standard wiring

Ok, so I should wire:
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Jack #1:
white/orange to pin 1
orange to pin 2
white/green to pin 3
green to pin 6
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Jack #2
What order are the colors in? Do they also go to pins 1, 2, 3, and 6?
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Since I am wiring two jacks from one cat5e cable, can I still get the 100MB/s speed from both jacks? Why are all cables normally used in pinout if only 4 of the 8 are actually used?

 

Jack 1 is correct.

Jack 2 is going to be non-standard as far as wire color is concerned. HOWEVER, those non-standard colors should still go to pins 1/2 and 3/6 of the RJ 45 male or female connector. You want the jack to be standard. Wire color for the second jack won't be standard because there is no choice. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

http://www.netspec.com/helpdesk/wiredoc.html

Ethernet requires only 4 wires, so we have 2 spare pairs that we can use for other stuff. CAT6 wiring uses that 2 extra pairs, but not in CAT5.

Spead will still be 100 MB/sec. Those are indepednt signals. For second jack, use the remaing wires, making sure the pins connections to RA45 match at both ends to

 

Now the tool and connector that I gave you makes it very easy to do this. The RJ45 conector has holes at the end, such that when you insert the wires, the wires come out of those holes allowing you to see which color goes to what pin. So you can examine your insert before you crimp. Home DEPOT has that too.

 

Jack 1 is correct.

Jack 2 is going to be non-standard as far as wire color is concerned. HOWEVER, those non-standard colors should still go to pins 1/2 and 3/6 of the RJ 45 male or female connector. You want the jack to be standard. Wire color for the second jack won't be standard because there is no choice. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

http://www.netspec.com/helpdesk/wiredoc.html

Ethernet requires only 4 wires, so we have 2 spare pairs that we can use for other stuff. CAT6 wiring uses that 2 extra pairs, but not in CAT5.

Spead will still be 100 MB/sec. Two are two indepednt signals

Ok, cool. So, it doesn't matter which of the remaining wire colors go to the second jack (as long as they are the same on both ends), correct? When you plug a normal ethernet cable in this new jack (with only 4 wires), it will not have any problems, since the jack has 4 wires, and the head of the ethernet cable has 8, right?

One last thing (on an unrelated note). In gigabit ethernet over cat5e, does that require all 4 pairs? If so, will a gigabit switch automatically fill up the other two pairs?

Thank you.

 

For 100 megabit ethernet, the colors don't matter but the wires MUST be paired properly. Pins 1&2 and 3&6 must be twisted pairs, and the same on both ends.

 

Ok, cool. So, it doesn't matter which of the remaining wire colors go to the second jack (as long as they are the same on both ends), correct? When you plug a normal ethernet cable in this new jack (with only 4 wires), it will not have any problems, since the jack has 4 wires, and the head of the ethernet cable has 8, right?

One last thing (on an unrelated note). In gigabit ethernet over cat5e, does that require all 4 pairs? If so, will a gigabit switch automatically fill up the other two pairs?

Thank you.

I will use the remaining 4 wires in the order of their standard number. That is logical to me and that way I can easily remember what I have done such that I can remember what wires to connect to RJ45 connector.

Second ethernet siganl at BOTH ENDS

White/Blue to PIN 1
Blue to PIN 2

White/Brown to PIN3
Brown to PIN 6

Remember, the siganls at RJ45 pins, MUST I repeat, MUST be standard. That way you can connect standard RJ45 cables to it from router or computer or switch without pain.

 

Now that you are heavily involved in this project, it might be a good idea to get the tester that JOHNWILL recommeded. As soon as you finish one cable and put connectors at both end of it, run a test on it with JOHNWILL's tester to make sure everything is ok. The time to trouble shoot is now, not when you are connecting equipment. Besides, you will have all these tools for the next new house or other stuff. There is a good chance that Home Depo has something like this also.

http://www.lashen.com/vendors/Testum/TP250.asp

 

Now that you are heavily involved in this project, it might be a good idea to get the tester that JOHNWILL recommeded. As soon as you finish one cable and put connectors at both end of it, run a test on it with JOHNWILL's tester to make sure everything is ok. The time to trouble shoot is now, not when you are connecting equipment. Besides, you will have all these tools for the next new house or other stuff. There is a good chance that Home Depo has something like this also.

http://www.lashen.com/vendors/Testum/TP250.asp

Ok, I will look into that. Thank you for your help once again, invalidusername. You have helped me A TON! I will try the things that you have suggested, and I hope I can get things running smoothly in the near future.

Just one last thing. If you were in this situation, would you do what I am currently planning to do (wire two jacks from one cable), or put a switch down there? I am reluctant to do so, but I would like to hear what you would do.

 

Just one last thing. If you were in this situation, would you do what I am currently planning to do (wire two jacks from one cable), or put a switch down there? I am reluctant to do so, but I would like to hear what you would do.

You can still put a switch down there no matter what. Remember, one set in that cable is standard, the second set is non-standard. It will not hurt to use the extra cables in the cat5 cables. Later on, you wil have the choice to put a switch in the basement or not.

The extra pairs were provided for a reason, not to just waste wire. In some situations they run two independant ethenet siganls on it, just like the way you are doing it.
In some other cases, it is used to deliver DC power to some ethernet equiment such as remote camera or another remote switch. I do not undrstand why you are reluctant?

Ask yourself, whydo we have 8 wires, instead of 4? Was somebody out of his/her mind to create 4 extra wires for nothing? They are there to use as needed, as the desing allows (i.e. you should not use it for delivery of 120V Ac, or high current DC). Besides, as I said, if you want to use a switch, this is not going to stop you from doing that. The only disadvantage of this is you may spend a few box on some jacks/connector that you may not use.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

 

You can still put a switch down there no matter what. Remember, one set in that cable is standard, the second set is non-standard. It will not hurt to use the extra cables in the cat5 cables. Later on, you wil have the choice to put a switch in the basement or not.

The extra pairs were provided for a reason, not to just waste wire. In some situations they run two independant ethenet siganls on it, just like the way you are doing it.
In some other cases, it is used to deliver DC power to some ethernet equiment such as remote camera or another remote switch. I do not undrstand why you are reluctant?

Ask yourself, we do we have 8 wires, instead of 4? Was somebody out of his/her mind to create 4 extra wires for nothing? They are there to use as needed, as as desing allows (i.e. you should not use it for 120V Ac). Besides, as I said, if you want to use a switch, this is not going to stop you from doing that. The only disadvantage of this is you may spend a few box on some jacks/connector that you may not use.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

Ok, thank you for the advice. I appreciate your time and feedback.

 

Here is what I'll do for the present time:

I'll wire the 2 jacks from one cable. In the future, if I ever want to move to Gigabit ethernet I can take out the second jack's wires, and put them all into jack #1. This will bring gigabit speeds to that one jack which will then be connected to a new switch, which will serve as the jacks for both the basement and the room above.

These rooms will still not get Gigabit speeds, but they still be faster than the 100MB/s speed, even if both are using that one cable coming from the meeting spot to the switch, to download files on the router's switch, correct?

 

Yes that should work. Now, keep in mind that if you have CAT5 cable run in the house, that cable is not rated for Gigabit ethernet, for that you should have run at least CAT6. If I am not wrong, CAT5 is rated for 100MB/s (or something close to that) and not the Gigabit ethernet.

 

Take a look at this:

http://www.absolutecan.com/cat5or6.htm

 

For 100 megabit ethernet, the colors don't matter but the wires MUST be paired properly. Pins 1&2 and 3&6 must be twisted pairs, and the same on both ends.

I know the thread is mark "solved". But, since I see some hesitency you on part, take another look at Frank4d's response.

 

Alright, cool. Yeah, cat5e can run gigabit ethernet but it needs all 4 pairs. Thanks for the links.

When you use a single cable (let's say 100MB/s) to connect to a switch, which in turn is connected to two other computers, will those two computers equally share that cable to access the other computers on the main switch? I believe you answered yes to this question, but let's say you have gigabit ethernet, would it then share the higher 1000MB/s and get about 500MB/s each if both were being used?

Ugh, I hope you are not getting mad by my persistent questioning. I just keep thinking of questions and can't seem to figure out the answers by myself.

 

All computers on the second switch share the link that goes to the main switch. So, for each computer on the second switch the speed will be less than rated when more than one computer is going thru that link to access another computer on the main switch.

Now, when you get ready to terminate your cables with RJ45 connectors, leave enough cable before you trim the cable in case you have to redo the connector. Especailly, at the basement end, leave at least 3 feet of extra cable. Trim the jacket and untwist the pairs only as much needed to put the clip-on connectors on. This way, you can easily transfer the wires from the second RJ45 jack to the first one, in order to consolidate the wires into one connector. This will address your concern for the future.

Also, if you are planning to put a switch in the basement, then that is a good idea too. In this case, there is no need to split the cable at the basement into two RJ45 jacks. I know this is really what you want to do, so why don't you do it this way? My recommedation for splitting the cable into two separate signals was based on what we discussed last night. My assumption was that you did not want to use a second switch. In think, using the second switch will be better than not using it. Switch does wonderful things, among which , it regenerate the siganl and gives you a fresh new range for your signal. So, I say if you do not mind speding the money, the second swithc is a better approch-in my opinion-for the basement-to-bedroom problem.