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Have career (job search) and financial files from '99 that were moved via floppy disk, tape, CD, or e-mail from old NT 4.0 to newer NT 4.0 box and then to current W2K box. On latter two boxes these files produced 'access restricted' errors and were inaccessible. I've kept them in hopes of someday being able to reaccess the data. These file types include doc, txt, html, MS Money data, and possibly another one or two. In other words, file type is not the issue. I was on the old boxes and am on the W2K box THE administrator, and I have tried everything from renaming, taking ownership, changing permissions for folder and file, and still cannot access them. The current drive and previous drive were both NTFS, but I may have had a problem on a FAT drive also, although that is vague in my mind.

Any suggestions would be appreciated!
 

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maybe the documents/files/folders you made under the old program are not compatible with the new program. because of the way the program was rewritten.

you said these files were from '99. this being '05. alot has changed in 6 years.
 

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Despite the six year time span, this problem existed the minute I had gone to a new O/S 3-4 years ago. I've always suspected it was a rights issue, but, since Admin rights were mine in each situation, that should'nt apply, unless there's an NTFS issue with SIDs...
 

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i am not doubting the "rights" are yours. writing or saving something under a program. then later after doing a upgrade to a newer system. whoever designed that program may have 'improved' it. so as not to comply with what you used to create the document earlier.

i know...clear as mud. maybe someone has a better idea or thought. :D
 

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2/11/02 is the date of all files (over 1,600) that are no longer accessible. They range from unique file types in programs such as Tax Cut to bitmaps, hdl, help, html, exes, doc, Excel, pdf, text, and many other file types...all inaccessible.
 

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I have a limited knowledge of NTFS permissions, but from what I understand when you "move" a file, as opposed to "copy" it, it retains the security permissions and ID of the folder from which it was moved "from". On the other hand, when you copy a file, it takes on the permissions of the folder or media to which it is copied. You can get permissions errors even though you have set up a new system with the same User Name.

So if you still have access to the old files, you can try a copy.

If not, you need to "take possession" of the new files by changing their permissions.

I don't know why you should be having a problem taking possession if you are following proper procedures.

How about if you copy them to a FAT32 system?

2K:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/deploy/confeat/13w2kadc.mspx

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;300691&sd=tech
 

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Rollin' Rog,

Thanks for suggestion, however, that had already been done. I did discover that I was not Owner of the drive, so I changed that. Also, discovered that Encryption could not be removed from these files (all dated 2/11/2002) nor others on same drive, or, at least, same directory. Kept getting 'access denied' once Encryption removal was attempted through Advanced properties. Since this applies to files other than those I originally could not access, seems a secondary issue unrelated to first, especially since I can change file/directory/drive permissions without a problem.

Still without access...

Ralph
 

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Rollin' Rog said:
Can these files be copied to a FAT32 drive which knows nothing of NTFS permissions? Do you still have the original media to which they were moved from the old drive?

That's about the only thing I can think of trying.
That might work... If you can get a Windows computer with a FAT32 drive, and the original media, you can try and set the date back to 99, and see if it lets you access them. Just make sure you don't "Windows Update"! :eek:
 

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Original media is long gone (hard drive in very old PC, now recycled). Cannot copy or move files to any location due to 'access denied' error. And, files may have become encrypted as default setting for either current or former drive; can't tell which. If that is default setting for NT 4.1 or W2K Pro, then, it happened as consequence of saving or moving info to encrypted drive.

My research seems to confirm the issue of original key.
 
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