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I have any older (5 yrs) computer with Windows 98 SE that the mouse has died on. I tried a new mouse but still no activity. It is a serial. Could the cable be bad? If so, where in the world can I but a new serial cable? Can these old PCs have a new card or whatever installed to go with a new PS2 mouse?

This computer is used by my elderly mother who only uses it to play Casino. She loves those slots!! :rolleyes:
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It may be a fault with the serial port, rather than the mouse. You can't install a PS2 mouse card, but some motherboards that don't have a PS2 mouse socket have a header on the motherboard for one, you need the cable that goes from that to a socket on the back, though, which will be hard to find these days. You could try installing a USB card and using a USB mouse.
 

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You may run into problems getting a USB2 card to work, see if you can track down an older USB1.1 card, that should work ok. The board may also have the pins on it for an onboard USB controller, the pin layout will look like .:::: and you can buy the header for this from many computer shops.
 

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Is a header that you have spoken of the cable plug end? I'm a novice on this type of hardware. So what you are saying is that I could probably buy an older USB card and then use an USB mouse. Would I have to tweak any software or will it recognize it upon bootup?

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http://www.hardwarecooling.com/product_info.php/cPath/92/products_id/443

did you try a new serial mouse and you say it doesnt work? if not then internal wire to serial connection to motherbord may be bad or the actual socket on the mobo may be bad which would require a new mobo. the usb thing may work as was said try to find an older usb1 adapter card that goes into a pci slot on mobo, you may have to go into bios and enable usb device though just so you know

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...Sku=K450-8401&SRCCODE=WEBGOOAUT&CMP=KNC-GOOGL

this may work with usb1 no sure
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1457792&CatId=511

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Yes, I tried a new serial mouse to no avail. I have looked on the Internet for an older USB card but haven't been able to find one. How would I know if it is the mouse cable, the port on the board or something else that is causing this problem? I know just enough to get me in trouble with the hardware. If it weren't that my mom enjoys playing the slots on this machine so much, I would just trash it but, I can't afford to buy her a new one just for the casino game. I just need to get a mouse to work.
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Yes, I tried a new serial mouse to no avail. I have looked on the Internet for an older USB card but haven't been able to find one. How would I know if it is the mouse cable, the port on the board or something else that is causing this problem? I know just enough to get me in trouble with the hardware. If it weren't that my mom enjoys playing the slots on this machine so much, I would just trash it but, I can't afford to buy her a new one just for the casino game. I just need to get a mouse to work.
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the fact that a new serial mouse didnt work points to a problem with your mobo, and would probably be so expensive to fix by a shop that it wouldnt be worth it. I have an old serial mouse type pc sitting up in my attic that i was looking at and as I said it has a separate serial socket that is fastened to the case with a small ribbon cable and plugs into the motherboard, if you want to venture into the pc you could try to make sure that everything is plugged in good and tight, and or see if you could get a replacement for this item at a local new/used pc shop, however if the serial port is built into the motherboard then that option is....well, not an option. the second site i posted previously looks like the right usb card for your pc so you could try that route for relatively few $$$, then you could use a usb mouse. You may not need to go into bios and its no big deal if you do, i had to enable usb on one of my old pcz to get them to work, the default was disable for some reason. You just tap the F8 key when booting the pc, find the setting in the bios, and save changes on exit, no big deal really. Barring all of that there are charitable organizations that you can get a pc for real cheap and/or nothing depending on your moms financial situation, there are a lot of folks on TSG, me included that have old pcz lying around that could probably be convinced to part with one except for the shipping costs, I've given a couple away and /or sold them for like $20 to people, I figure its better than them sitting up in my attic, most people just need them for internet anyway.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1457792&CatId=511
 

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I have installed both a USB card and a Serial port card. Still no mouse recognized. I still get an error upon bootup saying "Windows did not detect a mouse attached to the computer........."

I went into the bios and didn't see anything that would specifically enable the USB card. It looks like the computer does see both the new cards, just not a mouse. Everything else works just fine.

Any suggestions?
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A five year old computer should have a ps2 mouse port, and a usb port. They do not make serial port mice anymore. I've had 15 year old computers that had a PS2 port. Win 98 and above supports USB.
 

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menana said:
I still can't get a mouse to work. Now what?

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$299 for a Dell Dimension 2400
 

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Ah come on, there must be a way to get a mouse to work on this pc. Except for that, it is a great little 'puter. I won't give up that easily. LOL

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Hey Guys, I still need some help here. Doesn't anyone have any other ideas? I can't just toss this pc, it is too good. It is only the stupid mouse that is giving me fits. How do I get the machine to recognize the USB mouse? No software came with the card or mouse.
 

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I'm starting to think this is an OS issue. Have you tested the mouse on another system?

The BIOS settings are something like ENABLE USB LEGACY...blah...blah...something like that. Don't quote me on it.
 

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No, I know at least two of the mice I have are good because they are brand new. I bought a PS2 with a serial adapter and also a USB one. After it boots up, I get a "Windows mouse Support" error screen that says "Windows did not detect a mouse attached to the computer, you can safely attach a serial mouse now. To attach a mouse to the PS/2 port, you must first turn off the computer."

It may very well be a Windows thing, how can I tell? It is operating WIN98SE.

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