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"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

David Rockefeller Baden-Baden, Germany 1991
 

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"His (Sherif Hussein) aim is the establishment _of a Caliphate (not the only one) for himself, and indep_endence for people speaking Arabic from their present irritating subjection to people speaking Turkish. His aims are thus in defi_nite opposition to the Pan-Islamic party who are his strong obstacle. his activity seems beneficial to us, because it marches with our immediate aims, the break up of the Islamic block and the defeat and disruption of the ottoman Empire, and because the states he would set up to succeed the Turks would be as harmless to ourselves as Turkey was before she became a tool in German hands. The Arabs are even less stable than the Turks. If properly handed they would remain in a state of political mosaic, a tissue of small jealous principali_ties, incapable of cohesion and yet always ready to combine_ against an outside force. The alternative to this seems to be the control and colonization by a European power other than ourselves which would inevitably come into conflict with the interests we already possess in the Near East. If we can only arrange that his (Sherif Hussein) political change shall be a violent one, we will have abolished the threat of Islam, by dividing it against itself in its very heart. There will be a Khalifa in Tur_key and a Khalifa in Arabia, in theological warfare, and Islam will be as little formidable as the Papacy when Popes lived in Avignon." - T. E. Lawrence, January 1916
 

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YADA YADA YADA :mad:
SO SAYETH CHARLES MANSON (these extremist freaks)
this is all an excuse to kill , not unlike Hitler
PERIOD!

;) :mad:
 

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“Every time we do something, you [Shimon Peres] tell me America will do this and will do that... I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”

— Ariel Sharon
Israeli Prime Minister, homicidal psychopath
Knesset, Tel Aviv, October 3, 2001
 

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"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavour to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."

— Abraham Lincoln 1865
 

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"We stand for the maintenance of private property... We shall protect free enterprise as the most expedient, or rather the sole possible economic order."
— Adolf Hitler, capitalist, admired by American capitalists such as Prescott Bush, grandfather of George W. Bush

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power."

— Benito Mussolini, 1883-1945 Fascist dictator of Italy

"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country."

— Thomas Jefferson 1812

"Can it be believed that the democracy which overthrew the feudal system and vanquished kings will retreat before tradesmen and capitalists?"

— Alexis de Tocqueville 1805-1859

"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."

— Benjamin Disraeli, Prime Minister of England 1844

"An honest politician is one who, when he's bought, stays bought."

— Simon Cameron, 19th Century Pennsylvania Republican political boss

"Nowhere do 'politicians' form a more separate, powerful section of the nation than in North America. There, each of the two great parties which alternately succeed each other in power is itself in turn controlled by people who make a business of politics, who speculate on seats in the legislative assemblies of the Union as well as of the separate states, or who make a living by carrying on agitation for their party and on its victory are rewarded with positions.

"It is well known that the Americans have been striving for thirty years to shake off this yoke, which has become intolerable, and that in spite of all they can do they continue to sink ever deeper in this swamp of corruption. It is precisely in America that we see best how there takes place this process of the state power making itself independent in relation to society, whose mere instrument it was originally intended to be.

"Here there exists no dynasty, no nobility, no standing army, beyond the few men keeping watch on the Indians, no bureaucracy with permanent posts or the right to pensions. And nevertheless we find here two great gangs of political speculators, who alternately take possession of the state power and exploit it by the most corrupt means and for the most corrupt end — and the nation is powerless against these two great cartels of politicians, who are ostensibly its servants, but in reality exploit and plunder it."


— Frederick Engels, c. 1871 speaking of Democrats and Republicans

"A great industrial Nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the Nation and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world — no longer a Government of free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men."

— Woodrow Wilson, U.S. President during Capitalist World War I

"American capitalism is predatory, and American politics are corrupt."

— Upton Sinclair, famous American writer in a letter to John Reed October 22, 1918

"The business of America is business"

— President Calvin Coolidge

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."

— Franklin D. Roosevelt, U.S. President during capitalist-caused World War II

"The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to the point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group or any controlling private power."

— President Franklin D. Roosevelt, on the threat to democracy by corporate power

"We can have a democratic society or we can have the concentration of great wealth in the hands of the few. We cannot have both."

— Louis Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice from 1916-1939

"In many respects, we now live in a society that is only formally democratic, as the great mass of citizens have minimal say on the major public issues of the day, and such issues are scarcely debated at all in any meaningful sense in the electoral arena. In our society, corporations and the wealthy enjoy a power every bit as immense as that assumed to have been enjoyed by the lords and royalty of feudal times."

— Robert W. McChesney, author of Rich Media, Poor Democracy and Corporate Media and the Threat to Democracy

"Many people say it is insane to resist the system, but actually, it is insane not to."

— Mumia Abu-Jamal political prisoner in America

"A world of unseen dictatorship is conceivable, still using the forms of democratic government."

— Kenneth Boulding, University of Michigan quoted in The Hidden Persuaders

"If a baseball player slides into home plate and, right before the umpire rules if he is safe or out, the player says to the umpire — 'Here is $1,000.' What would we call that? We would call that a bribe. If a lawyer was arguing a case before a judge and said, 'Your honor before you decide on the guilt or innocence of my client, here is $1,000.' What would we call that? We would call that a bribe. But if an industry lobbyist walks into the office of a key legislator and hands her or him a check for $1,000, we call that a campaign contribution. We should call it a bribe."

— Janice Fine, Dollars and Sense magazine

"The corporations of America today effectively oversee the Congress, and the regulatory agencies and indeed the presidency itself."

— E.L. Doctorow

"The U.S. President has been largely refashioned as a high-level trade representative for the transnationals."

The Nation

"Corporations have taken over the government and turned it against its own people."

— Ralph Nader, consumer advocate, presidential candidate

"There is no war on crime. There is no war on drugs, no war on terrorism. There is only the ongoing effort by the federal government to collect as much information on as many people as possible."

— Jim Redden, author of Snitch Culture: How Citizens Are Turned Into the Eyes and Ears of the State

"Americans cannot teach democracy to the world until they restore their own."

— William Greider, journalist and author

"... the United States has given frequent and enthusiastic support to the overthrow of democracy in favor of 'investor friendly' regimes. The World Bank, IMF, and private banks have consistently lavished huge sums on terror regimes, following their displacement of democratic governments, and a number of quantitative studies have shown a systematic positive relationship between U.S. and IMF/World Bank aid to countries and their violations of human rights."

— Edward S. Herman, economist, U.S. media and foreign policy critic author of The Real Terror Network

"[T]here seems to be nothing to prevent the transnational corporations taking possession of the planet and subjecting humanity to the dictatorship of capital.... In order to crush any thought of organized resistance to the supporters of the new world order, tremendous police and military forces are being used to establish a doctrine of repression...."

— Christian la Brie, Le Monde Diplomatique, Paris

"Governments need armies to protect them against their enslaved and oppressed subjects."

— Leo Tolstoy 1893

"Any single man must judge for himself whether circumstances warrant obedience or resistance to the commands of the civil magistrate; we are all qualified, entitled, and morally obliged to evaluate the conduct of our rulers. This political judgment, moreover, is not simply or primarily a right, but like self-preservation, a duty to God. As such it is a judgment that men cannot part with according to the God of Nature. It is the first and foremost of our inalienable rights without which we can preserve no other."

— John Locke, The ideological progenitor of the American Revolution

"Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience..."

— John Locke, 1690, 2nd Treatise on Government, Chapter 19, paragraph 222

"It is only when the factory workers refuse to make the stuff [poisonous herbicides], it is only when the loggers refuse to cut ancient trees, that we can ever hope for real and lasting change. This system cannot be stopped by force. It is violent and ruthless beyond the capacity of any people's resistance movement. The only way I can even imagine stopping it is through massive non-cooperation."

— Judi Bari, forest defender, Humboldt county, CA

"The American oligarchy increasingly has less in common with the American people than it does with the equivalent oligarchies in Germany or Mexico or Japan."

— Lewis Lapham, journalist

"The IMF represents the cruelty, cynicism, and crime with suits, computers and a lot of elegance. The IMF is a huge criminal, as any gangster, but one who dresses elegantly and who makes great decisions, who kills without staining its hands. With just one decision it makes, the IMF, in order to approve a loan, can decree death for millions of human beings or condemn them to an undignified life for a long time. If we are talking about the International Monetary Fund, we should define it in few words and it is this: A gangster, clinical in committing its crimes."

— Subcomandante Marcos in an interview with Zack de la Rocha

"We first crush people to the earth, and then claim the right of trampling on them forever, because they are prostrate."

— Lydia Maria Child

Laws are like spider webs. If some poor weak creature comes up against them — it is caught. But the bigger one can break through and get away."

— Solon, Greek philosopher, c. 630—555 B.C.

Poor people have access to the courts in the same sense that the Christians had access to the lions."

— Judge Earl Johnson, Jr.

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: that is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."

— John Kenneth Galbraith, famous economist and author

"Society's dominant discourse shapes not only its politics but the way people think about their personal lives and choices. Just as John F. Kennedy helped legitimize a discourse of idealism that gave impetus to the social movements of the 1960s, so Ronald Reagan managed to legitimize a discourse of selfishness and insensitivity that has had profound social consequences ... Shifting society's discourse — from one of selfishness and cynicism to one of idealism and caring — is the first and most important political goal ... in the next several decades."

— Michael Lerner,philosopher, psychologist, author

"The hidden hand of the market will never work without a hidden fist — McDonald's cannot flourish without McDonnell-Douglas, the designer of the F-15"

— Thomas Friedman, Ugly American, columnist for the New York Times

"America may be unique in being a country which has leapt from barbarism to decadence without touching civilization."

— John O'Hara

"We lack a Nuremberg to judge the economic order imposed upon us, where every three years more men, women and children die of hunger and preventable diseases than died in the Second World War."

— Fidel Castro, Cuban revolutionary leader, survivor of numerous CIA assassination attempts

"Socialism is not dead, it is not yet born."

— Muammar Al Qadhafi, Libyan revolutionary leader, survivor of numerous CIA assassination attempts

"A nation that enslaves another forges its own chains."

— Karl Marx

"The American Revolution was a beginning, not a consummation!"

— Woodrow Wilson, 1856-1924, 28th President of the United States

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it."

— Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1861
 

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"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

— William Colby, former Director of the CIA which, by no mere coincidence, is also known as "The Company"

"Without censorship, things can get terribly confused in the public mind."

— General William Westmoreland, United States Army

"In war, truth is the first casualty."

— Aeschylus, 525-456 B.C.

"Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the [U.S.] media."

— Noam Chomsky, M.I.T. professor of linguistics, prolific author & U.S. foreign policy critic co-author Manufacturing Consent

"The corporate grip on opinion in the United States is one of the wonders of the Western world. No First World country has ever managed to eliminate so entirely from its media all objectivity — much less dissent. "Of course, it is possible for any citizen with time to spare, and a canny eye, to work out what is actually going on, but for the many there is not time, and the network news is the only news even though it may not be news at all but only a series of flashing fictions..."

— Gore Vidal, The Decline and Fall of the American Empire

"Nothing appears more surprising to those who consider human affairs with a philosophical eye than the easiness with which the many are governed by the few, and the implicit submission with which men resign their own sentiments and passions to those of their rulers. "When we inquire by what means this wonder is effected, we shall find that, as force is always on the side of the governed, the governors have nothing to support them but opinion. It is, therefore, on opinion only that government is founded, and this maxim extends to the most despotic and most military governments as well as to the most free and most popular."

— David Hume, Of the First Principles of Government, 1758, quoted in Gore Vidal's, The Decline and Fall of the American Empire

"The owners and managers of the press determine which person, which facts, which version of the facts, and which ideas shall reach the public."

Report by the Commission on Freedom of the Press quoted in Democracy for the Few, by Michael Parenti and Don't Blame the People, by Robert Cirino

"Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness."

— George Orwell, author of the book 1984

"When I was Times bureau chief in Washington, I was a member of the League of Gentlemen [i.e., the established elite]; otherwise I never would have been bureau chief. Time after time, good reporters ... complained about not being able to get stories in the paper. And time after time I said to them, 'You're just not going to get that in the New York Times... it's too reliant on your judgement rather than on official judgement, it's too complex, it contradicts the official record more flagrantly than the conventions of daily journalism allow.'"

— Tom Wicker, New York Times columnist Guardian (London), February 13, 1985, quoted in Democracy for the Few, by Michael Parenti and "'League of Gentlemen' Rates Media," by Kevin Kelly

"Following the same course that virtually every other major industry has in the last two decades, a relentless series of mergers and corporate takeovers has consolidated control of the media into the hands of a few corporate behemoths. "The result has been that an increasingly authoritarian agenda has been sold to the American people by a massive, multi-tentacled media machine that has become, for all intents and purposes, a propaganda organ of the state."

— David McGowan, from the introduction to Derailing Democracy

"Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play."

— Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister

"There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell the country for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press. We are the tools and vassals of the rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

— John Swinton, New York Times editor in a speech before the New York Press Club 1953

"The minority, the ruling class at present, has the schools and press, usually the Church as well, under its thumb. This enables it to organize and sway the emotions of the masses, and make its tool of them."

— Albert Einstein, letter to Sigmund Freud July 30, 1932

"...the corporate ownership of the country has absolute control of the populist pulpit — 'the media' — as well as of the schoolroom."

— Gore Vidal, The Decline and Fall of the American Empire

"A world of unseen dictatorship is conceivable, still using the forms of democratic government."

— Kenneth Boulding, University of Michigan quoted in The Hidden Persuaders

"The enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominant political mythology."

— Michael Parenti, Political scientist and author of Inventing Reality: The Politics of News Media

"The U.S. Government spends more than $400,000,000 per year to employ more than 8000 workers to create propaganda favourable to the United States. The result: 90 films per year, twelve magazines in 22 languages, and 800 hours of Voice of America programming in 37 languages with an estimated audience of 75 million listeners — all describing the 'virtues' of the American way."

— Pratkanis and Aronson, Age of Propaganda: the everyday use and abuse of persuasion 1992

"The [Central Intelligence] Agency has owned outright more than 240 Media operations around the world, including newspapers, magazines, publishing houses, radio and television stations, and wire services, and has partially controlled many more."

— Michael Parenti, Political scientist and author of Democracy for the Few and Inventing Reality: The Politics of News Media

"We paid $3 billion for these television stations. We will decide what the news is. The news is what we tell you it is."

— station manager of a Murdoch/News Corp.-owned station in Florida

The station manager is alleged to have said this to two of the station's on-air reporters, Jane Akre and Steve Wilson, when they refused to water down their investigative report on Monsanto's bovine growth hormone. When the reporters continued to resist management-ordered story changes which they felt were false and misleading, they were fired.
Source: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/aug2001/cbs-a21.shtml


"In the media, the world is turned upside down. The Contras and the KLA are "democratizers"; the lethal sanctions against (the people of) Iraq exist to deliver its people from their dictator; the destruction of Yugoslavia through aerial bombardment of civilians and their infrastructure is a "humanitarian intervention."

— Michelle Stoddard, CovertAction Quarterly magazine

"The great masses of the people... more easily fall victims to a big lie than a small one"

— Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

"You furnish the pictures and I will furnish the war."

— William Randolph Hearst

Hearst was the owner of a chain of grossly dishonest, jingoistic newspapers. He had sent the famous artist Frederic Remington to Cuba to provide sketches for American newspaper readers of the Cuban insurrection against Spanish rule. When Remington arrived he found no insurrection happening. He wired Hearst, saying: "Everything quiet. No trouble here. There will be no war." Hearst wired back the notorious reply above.

"Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception."

— Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger 1916

"The process [of mass-media deception] has to be conscious, or it would not be carried out with sufficient precision, but it also has to be unconscious, or it would bring with it a feeling of falsity and hence of guilt.... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies — all this is indispensably necessary."

— George Orwell, in the book 1984

"One of the intentions of corporate-controlled media is to instill in people a sense of disempowerment, of immobilization and paralysis. Its outcome is to turn you into good consumers. It is to keep people isolated, to feel that there is no possibility for social change."

— David Barsamian, journalist and publisher

"History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people."

— Martin Luther King, Jr., emancipator

"The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth."

— Aldous Huxley

"We have the greatest opportunity the world has ever seen, as long as we remain honest — which will be as long as we can keep the attention of our people alive. If they once become inattentive to public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors would all become wolves."

— Thomas Jefferson, political visionary, 3rd U.S. President, unrepentant slave-owner

"I know of no country in which there is so little independence of mind and real freedom of discussion as in America."

— Alexis de Tocqueville, French political thinker, traveller author of Democracy in America 1805-1859

"Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear — kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor — with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it...."

— General Douglas MacArthur 1957

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed — and hence clamorous to be led to safety — by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."

— H. L. Mencken

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."

— Herman Goering, Nazi Air Force (Luftwaffe) commander at the Nuremberg Trials

"...the rank and file are usually much more primitive than we imagine. Propaganda must therefore always be essentially simple and repetitious. The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly...it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over."

— Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister

"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think."

— Adolf Hitler

"Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity... and I'm not sure about the former."

— Albert Einstein
 

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"We never see the smoke and the fire, we never smell the blood, we never see the terror in the eyes of the children, whose nightmares will now feature screaming missiles from unseen terrorists, known only as Americans."

— Martin Kelly, The Nonviolence Web: A Guide to the contemporary Peace Movement

"I would like to say that several months ago in Detroit we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia. They told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam, in addition to the normal ravage of war and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country."

— John Kerry, Navy lieutenant, leader of Vietnam Veterans against the War in testimony before the Senate Foreign relations Committee 1971

"We're going to become guilty, in my judgement, of being the greatest threat to the peace of the world. It's an ugly reality, and we Americans don't like to face up to it. I hate to think of the chapter of American history that's going to be written in the future in connection with our outlawry in Southeast Asia."

— Senator Wayne Morse, (D-OR) 1967

"The greatest crime since World War II has been U.S. foreign policy."

— Ramsey Clark, former U.S. Attorney General under President Lyndon Johnson

"If they turn on the radars we're going to blow up their goddamn SAMs (surface-to-air missiles). They know we own their country. We own their airspace... We dictate the way they live and talk. And that's what's great about America right now. It's a good thing, especially when there's a lot of oil out there we need."

— U.S. Brig. General William Looney, Washington Post, August 30, 1999 referring, in reality, to the brutal mass-murder of hundreds of civilian Iraqi men, women and children during 10,000 sorties by American/British war criminals in the first eight months of 1999

"Few of us can easily surrender our belief that society must somehow make sense. The thought that The State has lost its mind and is punishing so many innocent people is intolerable. And so the evidence has to be internally denied."

— Arthur Miller, playwright

"What would you think of a man who not only kept an arsenal in his home, but was collecting at enormous financial sacrifice a second arsenal to protect the first one? What would you say if this man so frightened his neighbors that they in turn were collecting weapons to protect themselves from him? What if this man spent ten times as much money on his expensive weapons as he did on the education of his children?

"What if one of his children criticized his hobby and he called that child a traitor and a bum and disowned him? And he took another child who obeyed him faithfully and armed that child and sent it out into the world to attack neighbors? What would you say about a man who introduces poisons into the water he drinks and the air he breathes? What if this man not only is feuding with the people on his block but involves himself in the quarrels of others in distant parts of the city and even in the suburbs? Such a man would clearly be a paranoid schizophrenic... with homicidal tendencies."


— Robert Anton Wilson, The Illuminatus!

"I believe that if we had and would keep our dirty, bloody, dollar soaked fingers out of the business of these [Third World] nations so full of depressed, exploited people, they will arrive at a solution of their own. And if unfortunately their revolution must be of the violent type because the "haves" refuse to share with the "have-nots" by any peaceful method, at least what they get will be their own, and not the American style, which they don't want and above all don't want crammed down their throats by Americans."

— General David Sharp, former United States Marine commandant 1966

"We have no honorable intentions in Vietnam. Our minimal expectation is to occupy it as an American colony and maintain social stability for our investments. This tells why American helicopters are being used against guerrillas in Colombia and Peru. Increasingly the role our nation has taken is the role of those who refuse to give up the privileges and pleasures that come from the immense profits of overseas investment."

— Martin Luther King, Jr., "A Time to Break the Silence" speech given at Riverside Church New York City April 4, 1967

"The trouble is that when American dollars earn only six percent over here, they get restless and go overseas to get 100 percent. The flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag. I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to defend some lousy investment of the bankers. We should fight only for the defense of our home and the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

"There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It had its 'finger men' to point out enemies, its 'muscle men' to destroy enemies, its 'brain men' to plan war preparations and a 'Big Boss' — supernationalistic capitalism. I spent 33 years in the Marines. Most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism.

"I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the rape of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street.

"War is a racket."


— General Smedley D. Butler, former U.S. Marine Commandant in Common Sense November 1935

"Death squads have been created and used by the CIA around the world — particularly the Third World — since the late 1940s, a fact ignored by the elite-owned media."

— Ralph McGehee, former CIA analyst CIABASE; The Crisis of Democracy also author of Deadly Deceits: My 25 years in the CIA

"In American spy parlance, it's called 'blowback' — the unintended consequences of covert activity kept secret from the U.S. public. The covert recruitment of a Nazi spy network to wage a shadow war against the Soviet Union was the CIA's 'original sin' and it ultimately backfired against the United States."

— Martin A. Lee, author of The Beast Reawakens

"The enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominant political mythology."

— Michael Parenti, political scientist, author of To Kill A Nation: The Attack on Yugoslavia Inventing Reality: The Politics of News Media

"Patriotism, like religion, meets people's need for something greater to which their individual lives can be anchored... America's state religion, [is] patriotism, a phenomenon which has convinced many of the citizenry that "treason" is morally worse than murder or rape."

— William Blum, author of Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower ; and Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA interventions Since World War II

"I will never apologize for the United States of America — I don't care what the facts are."

— President George Bush 1988

Bush was demonstrating his patriotism by excusing an act of cold-blooded mass-murder by the U.S. Navy. On July 3, 1988 the U.S. Navy warship Vincennes shot down an Iranian commercial airliner. All 290 civilian people in the aircraft were killed. The plane was on a routine flight in a commercial corridor in Iranian airspace. The targeting of it by the U.S. Navy was blatantly illegal. That it was grossly immoral is also obvious. Except to a patriot.

"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action! "It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."

— Albert Einstein

"It's really not a number I'm terribly interested in."

— General Colin Powell, War Criminal when asked about the number of Iraqi people who were slaughtered by Americans in the 1991 "Desert Storm" terror campaign: 200,000 Iraqi men, women and children

"Our leaders are cruel because only those willing to be inordinately cruel and remorseless can hold positions of leadership in the foreign policy establishment... People capable of expressing a full human measure of compassion and empathy toward faraway powerless strangers...do not become president of the United States, or vice president, or secretary of state, or national security adviser or secretary of the treasury. Nor do they want to."

— William Blum, author of Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower ; and Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA interventions Since World War II

"What occurred in Oklahoma City was no different than what Americans rain on the heads of others all the time, and subsequently, my mindset was and is one of clinical detachment. The bombing of the Murrah building was not personal, no more than when Air Force, Army, Navy or Marine personnel bomb or launch cruise missiles against government installations and their personnel."

— Timothy McVeigh, trained by the U.S. Army

"The fact that some elements (of the U.S. government) may appear to be potentially "out of control" can be beneficial to creating and reinforcing fears and doubts within the minds of an adversary's decision makers... That the U.S. may become irrational and vindictive if its vital interests are attacked should be a part of the national persona we project to all adversaries... It hurts to portray ourselves as too fully rational and cool-headed..."

— U.S. Strategic Command, Essentials of Post-Cold War deterrence 1995

(The U.S. Strategic Command, or STRATCOM, is the military entity responsible for formulating U.S. nuclear policy.)

"Never before in modern history has a country dominated the earth so totally as the United States does today. America is now the Schwarzenegger of international politics: showing off muscles, obtrusive, intimidating. The Americans, in the absence of limits put to them by anybody or anything, act as if they own a kind of blank check in their McWorld."

Der Spiegel, Germany's leading newsmagazine 1997

"The hidden hand of the market will never work without a hidden fist — McDonald's cannot flourish without McDonnel Douglas, the designer of the F-15."

— Thomas L. Friedman, A Manifesto for the Fast World" New York Times Magazine March 28, 1999

"The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them."

— George Orwell, author of 1984

"Around the world, the message received is that, whoever wins [the U.S. election], expect only more of the same — national narcissism disguised as altruism, corporate appeasement, and the arbitrary use of U.S. military and economic might."

— Greg Guma, Toward Freedom magazine

"The U.S.A. has supplied arms, security equipment and training to governments and armed groups that have committed torture, political killings and other human rights abuses in countries around the world."

Amnesty International, "United States of America — Rights for All" October 1998

"The great nations have always acted like gangsters, and the small nations like prostitutes."

— Stanley Kubrick, author

"... the United States has given frequent and enthusiastic support to the overthrow of democracy in favor of 'investor friendly' regimes. The World Bank, IMF, and private banks have consistently lavished huge sums on terror regimes, following their displacement of democratic governments, and a number of quantitative studies have shown a systematic positive relationship between U.S. and IMF/World Bank aid to countries and their violations of human rights."

— Edward S. Herman, economist, U.S. media and foreign policy critic author of The Real Terror Network

"We first crush people to the earth, and then claim the right of trampling on them forever, because they are prostrate."

— Lydia Maria Child

"History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people."

— Martin Luther King, Jr., emancipator

"All that is necessary for the forces of evil to prevail in the world is for enough good men to do nothing."

— Edmund Burke, British statesman 1729-1797

"There is no war on crime. There is no war on drugs, no war on terrorism. There is only the ongoing effort by the federal government to collect as much information on as many people as possible."

— Jim Redden, author of Snitch Culture: How Citizens Are Turned Into the Eyes and Ears of the State

American Nuclear Terrorism

"The use of the atomic bomb, with its indiscriminate killing of women and children, revolts my soul."


— President Herbert Hoover 1945

"To maintain this position of disparity [U.S. economic-military supremacy]... we will have to dispense with all sentimentality and day-dreaming.... We should cease to talk about vague and... unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of the living standard and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts.... The less we are then hampered by idealistic slogans, the better."

— George Kennan, Director of Policy Planning U.S. State department 1948

"The world has achieved brilliance without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants."

— General Omar Bradley

"Through the release of atomic energy, our generation has brought into the world the most revolutionary force since prehistoric man's discovery of fire. This basic force of the universe cannot be fitted into the outmoded concept of narrow nationalisms. For there is no secret and there is no defense; there is no possibility of control except through the aroused understanding and insistence of the peoples of the world."

— Albert Einstein 1947

"The release of atomic energy has not created a new problem. It has merely made more urgent the necessity of solving an existing one."

— Albert Einstein

"The United States spends more on arms annually, $275 billion presently, than the rest of the Security Council combined. U.S. arms expenditures are approximately 25 times the gross national product of Iraq. The U.S. has in its stockpiles more nuclear bombs, chemical and biological weapons, more aircraft, rockets and delivery systems in number and sophistication than the rest of the world combined. Included are twenty commissioned Trident II nuclear submarines any one of which could destroy Europe."

— Ramsey Clark former U.S. Attorney General Letter to the U.N., November 1998

"Today, the United States spends more on military arms and other forms of 'national security' than the rest of the world combined. U.S. leaders preside over a global military apparatus of a magnitude never before seen in human history.

"In 1993 it included almost a half-million troops stationed at over 395 major military bases and hundreds of minor installations in thirty-five foreign countries, and a fleet larger in total tonnage and firepower than all the other navies of the world combined, consisting of missile cruisers, nuclear submarines, nuclear aircraft carriers, destroyers, and spy ships that sail every ocean and make port on every continent. U.S. bomber squadrons and long-range missiles can reach any target, carrying enough explosive force to destroy entire continents with an overkill capacity of more than 8,000 strategic nuclear weapons and 22,000 tactical ones."


— Michael Parenti, Against Empire 1995

"You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war."

— Albert Einstein

American Military Objective for the 21st Century: Murder More Civilians

"Inaugurated this week, 'Yodaville' is the first urban bombing range for the U.S. military... The Marines hope their 'town' 35 miles southeast of Yuma will help the military develop more efficient and safer ways to attack villages, towns and cities from the air... Military experts predict that cities, where up to 70 percent of the world's population will live, will be the likely battlefields of the next century."


San Diego Union Tribune June 18, 1999

"For the future, mounted forces (tanks) must be ready to operate in urban settings... To meet the challenges that urban areas pose, the army must develop doctrine, training, organizations, materiel, and soldier-leaders. At Fort Knox, a facility is arising to fill these gaps. This new facility, a test bed for Force XXI, will integrate heavy weapons and mounted forces in urban operations... it will provide an unequaled opportunity for joint training across the spectrum of conventional and special forces... The site will be large and sophisticated. Plans include a 26-acre spread located on Fort Knox's northern training area... Its features will represent typical residential, municipal, and business districts found in cities."

— Robert S. Cameron, Ph.D., from the article: "It Takes a Village to Prepare for Urban Combat...And Fort Knox is Getting One."

This open declaration of intent to slaughter civilians is on the official website of Fort Knox, which bills itself as the "Home of Mounted Warfare."

See also: US military trains for urban warfare
http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/aug1999/war-a24.shtml

United States Marine Corps Emblems
http://www.reptilianagenda.com/img/i101899b.html

Clearly someone at the Pentagon has an affection for reptiles..." This page provides a look at some very strange Marine Corps emblems. These and a photograph of an "urban warrior" outfit illustrate that the U.S. military is training its soldiers to engage in violent operations within densely populated urban environments.

The No Gun Ri Massacre


"American soldiers played with our lives like boys playing with flies.''


— Chun Choon-ja, survivor of the No Gun Ri massacre, Korea 1950 she was 12-years-old at the time

"The hell with all those people! Let's get rid of all of 'em!"

— Capt. Melbourne C. Chandler, heavy-weapons company commander after speaking by radio with superior officers

"We just annihilated them."

— Norman Tinkler, ex-machine gunner

"It was just wholesale slaughter."

— Herman W. Patterson, ex-rifleman

"People pulled dead bodies around them for protection. Mothers wrapped their children with blankets and hugged them with their backs toward the entrances. "My mother died on the second day of shooting."

— Chung Koo-ho, 61, survivor of the No Gun Ri massacre

"On summer nights when the breeze is blowing, I can still hear their cries, the little kids screaming."

— Edward L. Daily, U.S. Army machine-gunner at No Gun Ri

For a report on the No Gun Ri massacre, see: American Terrorism and Genocide of the Korean people

Pancevo


"They call it 'The Night of the Witches,' those horrible hours that began at precisely 1 a.m. April 18, when NATO bombs and missiles rained in force on this Serbian city [Pancevo]. Within seconds, they demolished a refinery, a fertilizer plant and an American-built petrochemical complex that released a toxic cloud so dense and potentially lethal that its effects can be felt here even today — and will be, perhaps, for decades."


Los Angeles Times, "Yugoslav City Battling Toxic Enemies" July 6, 1999

"According to the log he (Professor Mico Martinovic) maintained, NATO bombed the chemical complex at Pancevo on 23 days, hitting it with at least 56 bombs or missiles."

Chicago Tribune, "Serbs Allege NATO Raids Caused Toxic Catastrophe" July 8, 1999

"Following the Pancevo incidents, a cloud of smoke some 15 kilometres [over 9 miles] in length lasted for ten days."

The Regional Environmental Center for Central and Eastern Europe "Assessment of the Environmental Impact of Military Activities During the Yugoslavia Conflict" June 1999

"[T]he ground in and around Pancevo is saturated with ammonia, mercury, naptha, acids, dioxins and other toxins that leaked and burned out of the factories that night..."

Los Angeles Times, "Yugoslav City Battling Toxic Enemies" July 6, 1999

"Come back, my friend, in 10 years. Then you will find half the people of Pancevo are dead, just like the fish."

— Dragomir Djuric, Serbian fisherman in Pancevo, Chicago Tribune July 8, 1999

See also:
American/NATO Terrorism of the Yugoslavian People

American terrorism is American tradition

"I did not know how much was ended. When I look back now from this high hill of my old age, I can see the butchered women and children lying heaped and scattered all along the crooked gulch as plain as I saw them with eyes still young. And I can see that something else died there in the bloody mud, and was buried in the blizzard. A people's dream died there. It was a beautiful dream..."


— Black Elk, Oglala Holy Man on the aftermath of the Massacre at Wounded Knee

The massacre at Wounded Knee, South Dakota took place in December, 1890. Soldiers of the United States Army Seventh Cavalry used gattling guns to slaughter 300 helpless Lakota children, men and women.

"America was born in blood. America suckled on blood. America gorged on blood and grew into a giant, and America will drown in blood."

— Thomas W. Chittum, Vietnam veteran, in his book Civil War Two

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

— Albert Einstein
 

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"This open declaration of intent to slaughter civilians is on the official website of Fort Knox, which bills itself as the "Home of Mounted Warfare.""




Warfare in urban environments does not mean "slaughter civilians". That is your singular interpretation, and by no stretch of the imagination can such a conclusion be drawn.

Urban describes a developed, unnatrurally occuring landscape. It does not even have to be inhabited to be "urban", it is in contrast to other landscapes, such as jungle, desert, mountainous, etc., etc.

Stick to the facts, works better......
 

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Originally posted by ComputerFix:
"This open declaration of intent to slaughter civilians is on the official website of Fort Knox, which bills itself as the "Home of Mounted Warfare.""

Warfare in urban environments does not mean "slaughter civilians". That is your singular interpretation, and by no stretch of the imagination can such a conclusion be drawn.

Urban describes a developed, unnatrurally occuring landscape. It does not even have to be inhabited to be "urban", it is in contrast to other landscapes, such as jungle, desert, mountainous, etc., etc.

Stick to the facts, works better......
ur·ban ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ûrbn)
adj.
Of, relating to, or located in a city.
Characteristic of the city or city life.

Try laying that crap on the inhabitants of Baghdad. There you will find the facts.
 

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Originally posted by Al-Firdaus:
ur·ban ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ûrbn)
adj.
Of, relating to, or located in a city.
Characteristic of the city or city life.

Try laying that crap on the inhabitants of Baghdad. There you will find the facts.
Since you want to go down to specific verbiage....

Where did it say "inhabited with civilians"?

Two armies collide in a city. Soldier shooting soldier. They are engaged in combat in an urban environment. Any inference that either army intends to "slaughter civilians" is more than subjective, it is bias based on which army you are supporting. An objective evaluation of the situation would see the term "urban" as a descriptive of the physical setting in which the battle takes place, not who is being targeted in the battle.

Interesting that rather than seeing the line about "the challenges urban settings pose" as a reference to the fact that one does NOT want to deliberately harm civilians (therefore, a higher factor than if a battle occurs in the middle of an uninhabited desert or jungle), but rather as a statement that one would.
 

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"Revealing Quotes"

what a waste of bandwidth...

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“Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws.”

— Meyer Amschel Rothschild, first patriarch of the Rothschild dynasty

“There are no important media outlets in the U.S. that are not owned or controlled by Jews.”

— Israel Shamir, Russian-Israeli journalist in his article “Midas Ears”

Note: Unlike Sharon, Israel Shamir is a decent, conscientious man. This is evidenced by his writings in condemnation of Israeli state terrorism. His statement is meant not as an ethnocentric boast, but as a wake-up call.

“The silence in [mainstream] America concerning Jews is simply deafening, isn’t it? The old adage has it that, when visiting a foreign country, to ascertain who really runs things, one need determine only who is spoken about in whispers, if at all.”

— Edgar J. Steele, journalist, lawyer

“At any given moment, there is a sort of all pervading orthodoxy, a general tacit agreement not to discuss large and uncomfortable facts.”

— George Orwell, author of the book 1984

“We all know that the first bankers of the world — Rothschilds — are Jews; we know they control not only the money market, but also the political destiny of the European world... The Press of Europe is mostly controlled by Jews; the leading editors are Jews.”

— Simon Wolf, Jewish-American lobbyist, 1888, The Influence of the Jews on the Progress of the World Washington DC, 1888; pp. 37-39

“The few who understand the system, will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favors that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantages...will bear its burden without complaint, and perhaps without suspecting that the system is inimical to their best interests.”

— Rothschild Brothers of London, communiqué to associates in New York, June 25, 1863

“Until you know who has lent what to whom, you know nothing whatever of politics, you know nothing whatever of history, you know nothing of international wrangles.”

— Ezra Pound, Expatriate American poet, writer, 1885-1972 speaking of the destructive effects of parasitical banking, or usury, on national and international politics

“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.”

— Benjamin Disraeli, First Jewish Prime Minister of England, 1868 in his 1844 novel Coningsby

“A world of unseen dictatorship is conceivable, still using the forms of democratic government.”

— Kenneth Boulding, University of Michigan quoted in The Hidden Persuaders

“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today.”

— President Theodore Roosevelt, 1906

“A great industrial Nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the Nation and all our activities are in the hands of a few [Jewish] men. “We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world — no longer a Government of free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant [Jewish] men.”

— President Woodrow Wilson, 1913-1921

“Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can be used to disallow terror as a means of war... We are very far from any moral hesitations when concerned with the national struggle. First and foremost, terror is for us a part of the political war appropriate for the circumstances of today...”

— Yitzhak Shamir, Israeli Prime Minister, Zionist terrorist

Shamir wrote this in his article titled “Terror”. It was published in the August 1943 issue of Hazit, the journal of Lehi, the Zionist terrorist gang he belonged to. It’s quoted in chapter 2 of Western State Terrorism: “International Terrorism: Image and Reality”, by Noam Chomsky.

“Many rabbis and professionals have told me recently that they fear for their jobs should they even begin to articulate their doubts about Israeli policy — much less give explicit support to calls for an end to the occupation.”

— Rabbi Michael Lerner, April 28, 2002, Los Angeles Times

“For believing [Torah] Jews, Zionism is anathema to our religion, indeed to our very being. Real Jews do not want to take over Palestine. Real Jews wish to live in peace with all peoples, especially our Arab/Muslim cousins. Real Jews commiserate with the suffering of the Palestinian people at the hands of the satanic Zionist Reich.”

— Adiv Abramson, an orthodox Jew http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1637.htm

“There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn’t exist.”

— Golda Meir, Delusional Israeli Prime Minister, Statement to The Sunday Times, June 15, 1969

“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”

— John Sheehan, S.J.
 

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Originally posted by ComputerFix:
Since you want to go down to specific verbiage....

Where did it say "inhabited with civilians"?

Two armies collide in a city. Soldier shooting soldier. They are engaged in combat in an urban environment. Any inference that either army intends to "slaughter civilians" is more than subjective, it is bias based on which army you are supporting. An objective evaluation of the situation would see the term "urban" as a descriptive of the physical setting in which the battle takes place, not who is being targeted in the battle.

Interesting that rather than seeing the line about "the challenges urban settings pose" as a reference to the fact that one does NOT want to deliberately harm civilians (therefore, a higher factor than if a battle occurs in the middle of an uninhabited desert or jungle), but rather as a statement that one would.
Where did it say "inhabited with civilians"?
True. It is not implicitly stated. But you know as well as I it is understood that it will be inhabited. It would be interesting if you could name a single city where in modern times said city was totally evacuated of its inhabitants prior to the outbreak of hostilities. Dresden, Germany was leveled in its entirety (not just factories and other war related structures) for the express purpose of terrorizing its civilian population. And this is just one example. Take Sherman's march through the south as another. His was a deliberate assault against the civilian populations he encountered for the express purpose of demoralizing them. His army encountered only two southern armies during his very long march from Georgia to South Carolina. Although Sherman laid both armies to waste he continued his terror campaign against the civilians he encountered. Civilians in this day and age are targets.
 

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"this day and age..."


Interesting that you put it that way.

In this day and age, if the US military wants to destroy a city, it can do so without deploying a single troop. In fact, it has done so, but even then a single plane was required. Now, not even that.

So, why is it "so obvious" that this is the intent of the US Army, when it does not have to be.

The militaristic technologies developed since Los Alamos have all been designed with the intent of limiting civilian casualties. Smart bombs, for example, would have no use under this "obvious" statement by the US military. Assuming mass casuality is the intent, a single bomb to replace several non-presision munitions and targeting systems (not like hitting a city is hard, but hitting a shed in a city certainly is) is an contradictory development.

It takes about a half second to realize that no special tactical training would be required for what you claim the intent to be. A tank, in its current configuration/abilities, can blow a hole in a building just fine. If the targeting is supposedly indiscriminate (or even specifically at civilians, not away from) nothing new in the way of tactics or hardware would be required. In fact, a "regression" would be more appropriate. No need to waste money on presision targeting systems if simply hitting something is all that is required.

You have finally come to one truth...civilians in this day and age are targets.....interesting how you "find" some sort of implication that is not there, but are able to push aside the obvious statements of such....
 

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Originally posted by ComputerFix:
"this day and age..."
So, why is it "so obvious" that this is the intent of the US Army, when it does not have to be.
The answer is simple. This nation's HISTORY.

February 1945
The Dresden Holocaust: American/British Genocide of the German People

Estimated civilian deaths: 130,000 to 500,000 German people

It was the greatest single massacre of World War Two, a genocide which surpassed the atomic bomb attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. As many as half-a-million German civilian men, women were burned to death on the night of February 13-14, 1945 by two massive firebombing attacks, carried out by the U.S. Army Air Force and the British Royal Air Force.

The next morning a third firebombing attack was carried out, during which sadistic American fighter pilots even strafed helpless crowds of injured and terrorized refugees as they tried to flee along the banks of the Elbe River. And if they are willing to do this to members of their own tribe.....:mad:
 

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With regard to this thread:

"Yadda Yadda Yadda"
Jerry Seinfeld

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They're Rioting in Africa (The Merry Minuet)
(Sheldon Harnick)

Intro:
There are days in my life when everything is dreary
I grow pessimistic, sad and world weary.
But when I'm tearful and fearfully upset
I always sing this merry little minuet:

They're rioting in Africa
They're starving in Spain
There's hurricanes in Florida
And Texas needs rain.

The whole world is festering
With unhappy souls
The French hate the Germans,
The Germans hate the Poles

Italians hate Yugoslavs
South Africans hate the Dutch
And I don't like anybody very much

But we can be grateful
And thankful and proud
That man's been endowed
With a mushroom shaped cloud

And we know for certain
That some happy day
Someone will set the spark off
And we will all be blown away

They're rioting in Africa
There's strife in Iran
What nature doesn't do to us
Will be done by our fellow man.
 
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