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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I'm running XP sp2 on a celeron 2.26 gz with 480 mb ram. Security Task Manager (trial version) indicates there 292 processes running using 79% of the ram! It appears the big ram eaters are Spyware Doctor 53.1mb, Truevector (Zone Labs) 26.9mb, of course windows explorer 34.4mb, with the rest going to the other 289 processes. I stopped and mostly disabled the services I don't need (prior to the current 292). My question is is there anything else I can do to free up ram? Also does anyone know of a freeware program that will show me in detail per process ram usage?



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Hi Dolphan,

Freewares exist to defrag RAMS but I don't recommand them.
The better solution is an additional stick of RAM as Windows XP is memory greedy.

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It is architecturally impossible to defrag ram, no matter what these sites say. And, memory "managers" are selling snake oil.

"292 processes" running!!!!
Just about 150 too many!

Download, install and run [ulr=]HiJackThis[/url]

Copy/Paste the created LOG file back here in a reply post for review.

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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
I agree. All Ram managers do is eat up more ram. Here's the HJT log you requested. I've tweaked xp till I'm blue. Maybe I've squeezed everything I can get out of it.
It would be nice to have a program that shows how much ram is being used by each process.

Running processes:
C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\sched.exe
C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\avguard.exe
C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\SandboxieServer.exe
C:\Program Files\WhiteCanyon\SecureClean 4\scwatch4.exe
C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\sdhelp.exe
C:\Program Files\UPHClean\uphclean.exe
C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe
C:\Program Files\WhiteCanyon\SecureClean 4\sctray4.exe
C:\Program Files\WhiteCanyon\SecureClean 4\scregmanager4.exe
C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\avgnt.exe
C:\Program Files\IObit\IObit SmartDefrag\IObit SmartDefrag.exe
C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\swdoctor.exe
C:\Program Files\AllWallpapersLite\awplite.exe
C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\Control.exe
C:\Program Files\Jetico\BestCrypt\BCResident.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Security Task Manager\TaskMan.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\SandboxieRpcSs.exe
C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\SandboxieDcomLaunch.exe
C:\Program Files\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL =
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL =
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =
O2 - BHO: PCTools Site Guard - {5C8B2A36-3DB1-42A4-A3CB-D426709BBFEB} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYWAR~1\tools\iesdsg.dll
O2 - BHO: PCTools Browser Monitor - {B56A7D7D-6927-48C8-A975-17DF180C71AC} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYWAR~1\tools\iesdpb.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Zone Labs Client] "C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SiSUSBRG] C:\WINDOWS\SiSUSBrg.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SecureClean4Tray] "C:\Program Files\WhiteCanyon\SecureClean 4\sctray4.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SecureClean4RegManager] "C:\Program Files\WhiteCanyon\SecureClean 4\scregmanager4.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BCWipeTM Startup] "C:\Program Files\Jetico\BestCrypt\BCWipeTM.exe" startup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [avgnt] "C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\avgnt.exe" /min
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SmartDefrag] "C:\Program Files\IObit\IObit SmartDefrag\IObit SmartDefrag.exe" /startup
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Spyware Doctor] "C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\swdoctor.exe" /Q
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [awplite] C:\Program Files\AllWallpapersLite\awplite.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SandboxieControl] C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\Control.exe
O4 - Global Startup: BestCrypt Auto Open.lnk = C:\Program Files\Jetico\BestCrypt\BestCrypt.exe
O9 - Extra button: Spyware Doctor - {2D663D1A-8670-49D9-A1A5-4C56B4E14E84} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYWAR~1\tools\iesdpb.dll
O11 - Options group: [INTERNATIONAL] International*
O16 - DPF: {05317530-B882-449D-9421-18D94FA3ED34} (OSInfo Control) -
O16 - DPF: {16095503-786F-4097-AED6-5D567A26D760} (SiS_OCX Control) -
O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) -
O16 - DPF: {6E5A37BF-FD42-463A-877C-4EB7002E68AE} (Housecall ActiveX 6.5) -
O20 - AppInit_DLLs: hplun.dll
O21 - SSODL: WPDShServiceObj - {AAA288BA-9A4C-45B0-95D7-94D524869DB5} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\WPDShServiceObj.dll
O23 - Service: AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic Scheduler (AntiVirScheduler) - Avira GmbH - C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\sched.exe
O23 - Service: AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic Guard (AntiVirService) - AVIRA GmbH - C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\avguard.exe
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\11\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: Sandboxie Service (SandboxU) - tzuk - C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\SandboxieServer.exe
O23 - Service: SCWatch 4.0 - WhiteCanyon Inc. - C:\Program Files\WhiteCanyon\SecureClean 4\scwatch4.exe
O23 - Service: PC Tools Spyware Doctor (SDhelper) - PC Tools Research Pty Ltd - C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\sdhelp.exe
O23 - Service: SecuROM User Access Service (V7) (UserAccess7) - Sony DADC Austria AG. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\UAService7.exe
O23 - Service: TrueVector Internet Monitor (vsmon) - Zone Labs, LLC - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon.exe

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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Triple6 said:
Make sure Spyware is fully up-to-date. Several versions are known to use lots of system resources.
Using Spyware Doctor registered version. It's updated daily and seems to work very well but man does it use a lot of memory (50-55mb).

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You currently show 34 Window's proceeses, that's fine. I currently have 42 and my RAM useage is at 388MB of 1GB memory, all according to Task Manager. If my math is correct you are using a little less, 480 X 79% = 379MB. I assume this is well within normal XP range.

If in fact your rig seems slugglish, or you are a heavy multi-tasker some more RAM is probably in order.

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I agree.
Task manager must be reporting threads not processes.

As well, if under normal load you have available ram, then there is really nothing to worry about. And, even if you infrequently start to get low, this is fine. But, when you consisently run with little available ram, you are now in a paging environment and the system will be sluggish.
(as well, if I understand the Sandbox concept, this could also be contributing to sluggishness)

You seem to have and over abundance of real-time "protection" and may want to consider getting rid of some if additional ram is not in your future.(secureclean, for example. And, if uphclean is the MS Hive cleaner, I don't know why it would be running all the time)
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