[maracles]

Hi,

My neighbour has just built a garden shed and wishes to setup a pc with internet in the shed. My obvious suggestion was wireless however they already have this but do not pick it up down in the shed (approx 30m from the house). Therefore i think the best setup would be to run an ethernet cable from the wireless router to the pc - is this the best way?

I was looking at just buying a 30m crossover cable, will this work?

 

[etaf]

if they have a wireless router you wont need a cross over cable

Not qualified to give advice on network cable outside - leave that to someone else.....

 

[maracles]

I have already sorted how i'm going to lay the cable - my problem is choosing the appropriate cable for linkin the router and the pc.

If a crossover cable is not the correct lead which is, i need to link the router ethernet ports to the pc ethernet port? If I do this I should be able to get internet on the pc, no?

 

[etaf]

Yes
but dont use a cross over - a normal straight cable should be OK from PC to Router

I suggest you try the cable and get it working in the house before you lay the cable
then you know it all works before you start...

How are you going to lay the cable

 

[maracles]

cheers for the quick response. I have looked online for 'ethernet cable' but there seems to be no results for this term, to the cables have a more technical term which i should be searching for? Furthermore is it possible to link to cables? I doubt there wil be a long enough single cable.

The shed already has an underground channel through which sky, power and telephone cables are already running - the cable will simply be added to this.

EDIT:

Just seen this, is it the correct cable

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/16471

 

[Frank4d]

Yes that is the correct cable type. And you can use an inline coupler to join two cables together (although I would not want to join more than two because each coupler will slightly degrade the signal). Another option would be to buy bulk cable, connectors, and crimper tool and make whatever length you need.

 

[cwwozniak]

I have looked online for 'ethernet cable' but there seems to be no results for this term, to the cables have a more technical term which i should be searching for?

Try a search for:

direct burial cat5

That should give you some results for Ethernet cables designed to better withstand the elements than the typical cables for indoor use.

 

[etaf]

you should get 30M OK - I have a 20M cable with noproblem - just looked at website - they have 30M there

Make sure you get a cable thats terminated with the plugs - the link looks just like a cable - however, looking at spec - it does say gold connectors
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...m9kdWN0X3NwZWNpZmljYXRpb25z&product_uid=20791

Product Description Belkin patch cable - 30 m
Type Patch cable
Features Moulded, snagless, gold-plated connectors
Length 30 m
Connector(s) 1 x RJ-45 - male
Connector(s) (Other Side) 1 x RJ-45 - male
Compliant Standards EIA/TIA-568B Category 5e
Colour White
Manufacturer Warranty Limited lifetime warranty

very good price - you pay about £1 a M in the UK at a local computer shop..

a decent compute rstore may even make you one up

i would avoid any joins if you can

 

[JohnWill]

Truthfully, I'd use directional antennas and wireless. Unless you know all of the pitfalls of connecting copper between separate buildings, this is not a real good idea.

 

[CarlssonMB]

Truthfully, I'd use directional antennas and wireless. Unless you know all of the pitfalls of connecting copper between separate buildings, this is not a real good idea.

No digging required! :up:

 

[jp1203]

http://www.cantenna.com/

http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/productlist.php?CatID=32&FamID=72&ProdID=187

I know someone who got the latter and it did expand it a good 100 feet +. The cantennas are supposed to do a pretty good job as well, but I've never had experience with one of them.

I think that's a much better idea than wired. You shouldn't run CAT5 over 200 feet and there isn't digging or issues of withstanding the weather.

 

[ronmelton]

Wireless is the best route, outdoor cabling is prone to lightning induction which can blow the hardware on each end. If the wireless Router has a visible sightline to the shed it should work fine without any additional antennas, you should be able to achieve distances over 60M if there are no obstacles in the way. Try placing the antenna in a window looking out at the shed.

 

[ronmelton]

Try placing the antenna( I meant ROUTER) in a window looking out at the shed

 

[jp1203]

I do well with distance when I point the antenna(s) directly out the window. That might do it as ronmelton said.

 

[jp1203]

By the way, welcome to TSG ronmelton!

 

[JohnWill]

FWIW, I used a pair of Cantenna units with standard Linksys hardware a couple of years ago to go 3/4 mile, it was direct line of sight with no obstructions. It did have some issue during hard rain, but other than that, it worked well.

 

[jp1203]

Wow, pretty good. My old Linksys B router will go around .2 miles without any addon antennas, but the new Netgear G one only makes.1 miles. Why do I really need it to go that far anyway? Only thing tied in wirelessly is a machine that's only about 60 feet away in another room. It covers the house and 3 acres of lawn with a 3 bar or better signal, and I can go through most of my mountain bike trails catching a weak signal for about 1/2 of the length of them.

 

[O111111O]

Do as John said, go wireless.

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopSearch.asp?CategoryID=79

7dbi or 14dbi antennae will get you there quite easily. 14dBm of gain will cover a 2.5hectare area quite easily.

Running copper between buildings means that you have to deal with ground potential. This means any time there is any form of electrical storm in your vicinity your equipment will "feel" it.