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Is Iran Next After Iraq!

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I guess some troops will be pulled out of Iraq if this comes to fruition! :eek: I can't help but see how Bush is further alienating us from the world...making America the country to hate! :( Following right along the book of Revelations....I hope and pray along the same lines that Bush realizes sometime before it's too late..that China and Russia are not our "friends"!

Journalist: U.S. planning for possible attack on Iran
White House says report is 'riddled with inaccuracies
'
Sunday, January 16, 2005 Posted: 9:23 PM EST (0223 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has been carrying out secret reconnaissance missions to learn about nuclear, chemical and missile sites in Iran in preparation for possible airstrikes there, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.

The effort has been under way at least since last summer, Hersh said on CNN's "Late Edition."

In an interview on the same program, White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett said the story was "riddled with inaccuracies."

"I don't believe that some of the conclusions he's drawing are based on fact," Bartlett said.

Iran has refused to dismantle its nuclear program, which it insists is legal and is intended solely for civilian purposes.

Hersh said U.S. officials were involved in "extensive planning" for a possible attack -- "much more than we know."

"The goal is to identify and isolate three dozen, and perhaps more, such targets that could be destroyed by precision strikes and short-term commando raids
," he wrote in "The New Yorker" magazine, which published his article in editions that will be on newsstands Monday.

Hersh is a veteran journalist who was the first to write about many details of the abuses of prisoners Abu Ghraib in Baghdad.

He said his information on Iran came from "inside" sources who divulged it in the hope that publicity would force the administration to reconsider
.

"I think that's one of the reasons some of the people on the inside talk to me," he said.

Hersh said the government did not answer his request for a response before the story's publication, and that his sources include people in government whose information has been reliable in the past.

Hersh said Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld view Bush's re-election as "a mandate to continue the war on terrorism," despite problems with the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

Last week, the effort to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq -- the Bush administration's stated primary rationale for the war -- was halted after having come up empty.

The secret missions in Iran, Hersh said, have been authorized in order to prevent similar embarrassment in the event of military action there.

"The planning for Iran is going ahead even though Iraq is a mess," Hersh said. "I think they really think there's a chance to do something in Iran, perhaps by summer, to get the intelligence on the sites
."

He added, "The guys on the inside really want to do this."

Hersh identified those inside people as the "neoconservative" civilian leadership in the Pentagon. That includes Rumsfeld, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Undersecretary of Defense Doug Feith -- "the sort of war hawks that we talk about in connection with the war in Iraq."

And he said the preparation goes beyond contingency planning and includes detailed plans for air attacks:

"The next step is Iran. It's definitely there. They're definitely planning ... But they need the intelligence first."

Emphasizing 'diplomatic initiatives'

Bartlett said the United States is working with its European allies to help persuade Iran not to pursue nuclear weapons.

Asked if military action is an option should diplomacy fail, Bartlett said, "No president at any juncture in history has ever taken military options off the table."

But Bush "has shown that he believes we can emphasize the diplomatic initiatives that are under way right now," he said.

Hersh said U.S. officials believe that a U.S. attack on Iran might provoke an uprising by Iranians against the hard-line religious leaders who run the government. Similar arguments were made ahead of the invasion of Iraq, when administration officials predicted U.S. troops would be welcomed as liberators.

And Hersh said administration officials have chosen not to include conflicting points of view in their deliberations -- such as predictions that any U.S. attack would provoke a wave of nationalism that would unite Iranians against the United States.

"As people say to me, when it comes to meetings about this issue, if you don't drink the Kool-Aid, you can't go to meetings," he said. "That isn't a message anybody wants to hear."

The plans are not limited to Iran, he said.

"The president assigned a series of findings and executive orders authorizing secret commando groups and other special forces units to conduct covert operations against suspected terrorist targets in as many as 10 nations in the Middle East and South Asia," he wrote.

Under the secret plans, the war on terrorism would be led by the Pentagon, and the power of the CIA would be reduced, Hersh wrote in his article.

"It's sort of a great victory for Donald Rumsfeld, a bureaucratic victory
," Hersh told CNN.

He said: "Since the summer of 2002, he's been advocating, 'Let me run this war, not the CIA. We can do it better. We'll send our boys in. We don't have to tell their local military commanders. We don't have to tell the ambassadors. We don't have to tell the CIA station chiefs in various countries. Let's go in and work with the bad guys and see what we can find out.'"

Hersh added that the administration has chipped away at the CIA's power and that newly appointed CIA Director Porter Goss has overseen a purge of the old order.

"He's been committing sort-of ordered executions'" Hersh said. "He's been -- you know, people have been fired, they've been resigning."

The target of the housecleaning at the CIA, he said, has been intelligence analysts, some of whom are seen as "apostates -- as opposed to being true believers."
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I have seen this 'writing on the wall' for some time now....and after the WMD's not present in Iraq -- with most politicians agreeing that they were there, are now looking for places they might have gone ie: Iran.

They are waiting for more intelligence :eek: is this the same intelligence we had when going into Iraq? Enough is enough. If Iran is building the most powerful explosive ever, and making it small enough to fit in a briefcase…it does not matter. We have more than enough means to fight back if such a terrible set of events come to fruition. What is this country trying to become? The minority report :mad:
izme said:
More war huh? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :rolleyes:

"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
~Gandhi

:)
Fish....why do we study?
Iran is NOT a US problem -- if the rest of the world is concerned with Iran...let them do something about it.
compushlep said:
Well that's good to hear! Let's take take Iran off the Axis-of-Evil then!! :D
alright, it's off -- who's next?
Chicon said:
Yup ! Iran is the main Israeli concern and I have some doubts about EU backing Israel if it goes kaboom !
not sure about that one -- should Iran take kabooming action....they will lose a country, but they would hardly be concerned about that at the time because they will be too busy losing their lives at the same time.
xico said:
Lan, what planet are you on? Do you think GE is left leaning? or Bill Gates? etc. Lan, get real.
Financially Bill Gates is even with his donations -- so to draw a conclusion one way or the other is a stretch. He very could be left leaning -- same as he could be right leaning ;)
But....if we look at Microsoft as a whole, we find that Democrats are favored by more than 2:1
poochee said:
Buy Microsoft!!:up: :D
It makes me sad to see the idea of politics influence you so. :(
xico said:
First, there is no left in the US. What I would call the middle of the road is considered left.
That says more about your personal state of mental perception rather than the political landscape of the US. ;)
compushlep said:
Iran Requests Direct Talks on Nuclear Program
In order to make such a request, they must fill out the appropriate forms, signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public inquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters.
technaught said:
Sure is a horrible thing to say. Doesn't matter if Blair was right or wrong. None should agree with a filthy action to which he might fall victim.

But I guess someone has just posted this news in accordance with what you've called for:

This was, after all, about his committment of UK troops to IRAQ

A note for TSG moderators/administrators...

I ask for an apology for personal attacks lodged against me, and others as well, by this person, amidst such absolute blatant hypocracy.

I have once attempted to communicate with one administrator outside of this forum.

If you do not act, I have no recourse, of course. But I will be better aware of protocol in this forum.

t/nt

EDIT:
never mind, admin's/mod's. I just saw that this person has posted 62K times. If nothing has been done by now, nothing will be done.
Perhaps I have missed something :confused:
angelize56 said:
Thu, Jun. 01, 2006

6 world powers agree on Iran incentives
How dare we go it alone like that! :mad:

There should be a coalition of nations!!!!
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