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Does anyone know what HTTP is other than (Short for HyperText Transfer Protocol, the underlying protocol used by the World Wide Web. HTTP defines how messages are formatted and transmitted, and what actions Web servers and browsers should take in response to various commands. For example, when you enter a URL in your browser, this actually sends an HTTP command to the Web server directing it to fetch and transmit the requested Web page.
The other main standard that controls how the World Wide Web works is HTML, which covers how Web pages are formatted and displayed
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And how can you change the settings or fix a problem, if the HTTP stops working or part of it goes bad?
 

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"And how can you change the settings or fix a problem, if the HTTP stops working or part of it goes bad? "

Http can stop working for a number of reasons but it has nothing to do directly with http but its transfer thru the net.

Part of it goes bad? You will have to explain that statement.

Do you have a issue or is this just informative?
 

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HTTP doesn't go "bad". Maybe your ability to communicate over HTTP via TCP is corrupt.
As far as "what other methods" are used, try:

HTTPS
FTP
SSL
SFTP

just to name a few as I head off to a meeting.
 

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I can connect to the net and it works okay but my program is saying.

HTTP Request Failed
Local Host Ping Test Passed
Local IP Ping Test Passed
Gateway Ping Test Passed

Why does my program say that?The other day, I could not connect to the net.Than the next day :eek:I could connect for some reason.

Log And Results files for this run have been stamped: 3.1.2008.14.58
3.1.2008.14.58 Self Healing Update Check
3.1.2008.14.58 Update Check - Has not been 30 days since last update, Skipping...
3.1.2008.14.58 Reading Tests from C:\PROGRAM FILES\ROGERS HI-SPEED INTERNET\RHSI SELFHEALING\tests.xml
3.1.2008.14.58 Success!
3.1.2008.14.58 OS Identification
3.1.2008.14.58 Windows 98 Detected
3.1.2008.14.58 Version: 4.10
3.1.2008.14.58 Build:2222
3.1.2008.14.58 Computer Information
3.1.2008.14.58 Because OS is Windows 98 Backing up user.dat and system.dat
3.1.2008.14.58 Registry Successfully Backed up to c:\system.bak and c:\user.bak
3.1.2008.14.58 Total Hard Drive Space is : 81,936,613,376
3.1.2008.14.58 Availible Hard Drive Space is : 80,048,455,680
3.1.2008.14.58 Total RAM is : 228,804 K
3.1.2008.14.58 sIEVersion Has a value of 6.0.2800.1106
3.1.2008.14.58 sOEVersion Has a value of 6,0,2800,1106
3.1.2008.14.58 sWMPVersion7 Has a value of 7.01.00.3055
3.1.2008.14.58 sWMPVersion8 Has a value of Not Found
3.1.2008.14.58 sWMPVersion9 Has a value of 10.00.00.3646
3.1.2008.14.58 sRPVersion Has a value of 6.0
3.1.2008.14.58 Network Information
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter: 1
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- Description: VIA VT6102 Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- Index: 16777218
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- IP Address: 192.168.0.5
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- GateWay(s): 192.168.0.1
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- DHCP Enabled: 1
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- DHCP Server: 192.168.0.1
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- Lease Obtained: 01/03/08 9:44:42 AM
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- Lease Expires: 13/12/1911 3:45:51 PM
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- GUID:
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- Have WINS: 0
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- Primary WINS Server:
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- Secondary WINS Server:
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- IP Address List: 192.168.0.5
3.1.2008.14.58 Adapter 1- Dynamicly Assigned Private IP: 192.168.0.5 is on a Private Network
3.1.2008.14.58 Current DNS Server: 192.168.0.1
3.1.2008.14.58 DNS Server List:
3.1.2008.14.58 - 192.168.0.1
3.1.2008.14.58 Browser Configuration Begins
3.1.2008.14.58 HTTP request for Homepage: http://news.google.com/nwshp failed!
3.1.2008.14.58 Proxy Configuration Begins
3.1.2008.14.58 Proxy configuration causes some systems to fail with windows update, please let us know if your system is affected
3.1.2008.14.58 Checking to see if this has previously been set...
3.1.2008.14.58 YES! IE Proxy was forced to Automatic Detection on previous Run
3.1.2008.14.58 This is a Windows Style Registry
3.1.2008.14.58 Checking for 98a Byte Type Bug...
3.1.2008.14.58 Proxy returned correct type: Byte()
3.1.2008.14.58 Checking Browser proxy settings
3.1.2008.14.58 Default portion of Proxy is NOT set to Autodetect
3.1.2008.14.58 Not forcing Default portion of IE Proxy to Autodetect Again...
3.1.2008.14.58 Legacy portion of Proxy is not set to Autodetect
3.1.2008.14.58 Not forcing Legacy portion of IE Proxy to Autodetect Again...
3.1.2008.14.58 Address for automatic configuration script could not be located... Good!
3.1.2008.14.58 Proxy Configuration Ends
3.1.2008.14.58 Browser Configuration Ends
3.1.2008.14.58
3.1.2008.14.58 Connectivity Section Begins
3.1.2008.14.58 http request for http://www.rogershelp.com failed!
3.1.2008.14.58 http request for https://services.rogers.com failed!
3.1.2008.14.58 HTTP Requests Failed!
I took out other long files has its just too much detail.

I also get error code 10050.I cannot ping my gateway IP or my own IP.

Some times if the power goes out the router or modem needs to be turn off than back on.To connect again.

Yet the internet is working?I thought my OS was bad ,but I did not want to mess with it because I do not know if I'm going to put XP on it or vista .Also I need to up upgrade my hardware.
 

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Ping: transmit failed, error code 10050 or 65
Symptom: When attempting to verify network connectivity with a remote computer by using the Ping.exe command, you may receive a command-line error message similar to the following: Ping: transmit failed, error code 65 or PING: transmit failed, error code 10050.

Resolutions: This behavior can occur if the following conditions are true: 1) ICS is enabled; 2) a firewall software is running on the computer; 3) The ZoneLabs program is not correctly configured for ICS.

To fix the problem: 1) re-configure ZoneAlarm for ICS. 2) Remove the Zone Labs firewall software from the computer.
The only thing I could find is this.
 

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Also found this.

When you issue a PING command, you may receive either of the following:

PING: transmit failed, error code 10050

PING: Transmit failed, error code 65.This failure is generally the result of having a firewall program blocking the PING or blocking ICMP Echo and/or Echo Reply packets.
Check your program documentation for how to allow the PING command or to allow ICMP Echo and/or Echo Reply packets.
 

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Until you have a failing scenario, it's pretty hard to know what happened.
 

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HTTP doesn't "go bad", I think you're chasing phantoms here.
 

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if you can't ping your gateway, it's not your http that is 'bad'; it's your tcp/ip stack. Something in there is wonky. Your http can't go bad; it's just a formal request between clients and servers; take a look at your url; do you remember typing in the http:// before the forms.techguy part?

As JW stated, it can't go 'bad'.

However, many, many things in the tcp/ip stack can. Next time you can't ping your gateway, try pinging 127.0.0.1; that's your own pc, and will verify that the tcp stack is functioning correctly.
 

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Your http can't go bad; it's just a formal request between clients and servers
Than I must not be understanding some thing here :eek: reading wikipedia.

Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) is a communications protocol for the transfer of information on intranets and the World Wide Web. Its original purpose was to provide a way to publish and retrieve hypertext pages over the Internet.
I would think if its bad it is the protocol .They say HTTP is a protocol .

Also important

HTTP is a request/response standard between a client and a server. A client is the end-user, the server is the web site. The
HTTP defines how messages are formatted and transmitted
I'm not debating just saying what I'm reading.I know JohnWill is pro at networking.I'm just getting confuse with the information I found on wikipedia.

To me it sounds like HTTP is jut a Protocol just like TCP .

Abbreviation of Transmission Control Protocol, and pronounced as separate letters. TCP is one of the main protocols in TCP/IP networks. Whereas the IP protocol deals only with packets, TCP enables two hosts to establish a connection and exchange streams of data. TCP guarantees delivery of data and also guarantees that packets will be delivered in the same order in which they were sent.
 

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I suggest you review the Open Systems Interconnection Basic Reference Model if you want to get a better picture of where HTTP fits into the network structure. Notice that IP is at level 3, TCP is at level 4, and HTTP is an application interface all the way up at level 7. They're all protocols, as well as many more mixed in there. I think you're making your issue way more complex than it is.

Yes, (TCP is not synonymous with IP, they are actually two separate components).

Occam's Razor: Of two equivalent theories or explanations, all other things being equal, the simpler one is to be preferred. In other words, when you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras.
 

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look up the 7 layer model, zerg....that will really help you, and I'm not being sarcastic. For many moons whilst I whiled away over books trying to get some understanding of this cybernetic mess they call dns, I had that taped to both my work monitor and the home rig. What John states is sooth; whatever him and skinny white guy post about networking generally is.

Your http 'can't' be broken. Your lsp may be, but that would be primarily due to malware, and there's an incredibly easy fix for that.

If you want some help, go to start > run > cmd > type ncpa.cpl > enter > in the dos box type ipconfig /all (note the space between the g and the /), and then copy and paste the results here so we can gander at it.

Personally, I think it was a hiccough with your isp, but that's just my kneejerk reaction. Either that or malware, and I'm half-tempted to have you post a hjt log, but I've been bounced enough for that. :)

Regardless, listen to JW and skinny white guy; they have forgotten more stuff about networking than I'll learn in a decade of hard studying.
 
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