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HELP - Water Cooling Question

1061 Views 9 Replies 5 Participants Last post by Alex Ethridge, Jun 23, 2005

kfall

Discussion Starter · Jun 23, 2005

This is my first time doing watercooling and I am very confused on how EXACTLY it works. So I listed a few questions I have and what I am running.

Specs:

ASUS P4P800 Deluxe Motherboard
Prescott 3.2ghZE Pentium4 Processor with HT Technology
2x512mb PC3200 of Corsair RAM with Thermaltake RAM Coolers
ATi Radeon 9800 PRO 128MB
Audigy 2 ZS SoundCard
120GB Seagate HD with HD Cooling Fan
Kingwin Arctic Liquid Cooling System

Questions:

- When doing the research that I did I could not find if there is something in the watercooling system that COOLS the water OR if I am supposed to provide something. I read that the radiator cools the COOLANT/Anti-Freeze but when I run my Kingwin Arctic Liquid Cooler, nothing seems to be cooled. What exactly cools the water/liquid and how?

- Understanding that a Prescott Intel Processor chip runs hot (55C idle when under heatsink fans) what is a temperature I SHOULD be running when watercooled?

- What do you recommend (those who have water cooling and dealt with it) as a good watercooling system for a decent price. And if you have watercooling, how did you make it or what did you use.

Please Write back ASAP Thanks Everyone

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Arcadion

· #2 · Jun 23, 2005

A water cooling system is made up of the following parts:
1. the water block attached to the CPU (a metal heatsink with water pipes looping around inside it)
2. the water reservoir (to hold water)
3. the radiator (to cool the water down, will normally have large slow fans on it for this)
4. the water pump
5. pipes connecting all of the above

More extreme water cooling systems may use a peltier (thermo-electric) element between the CPU and the water block.

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kfall

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jun 23, 2005

So in that case the radiator in my Kingwin is not working considering my CPU is still running really warm...

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Arcadion

· #4 · Jun 23, 2005

A P4 is going to run hot unless you use sub-zero cooling (e.g. a peltier), water cooling alone won't make a big difference.

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kfall

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jun 23, 2005

Where can I buy a peltier and how can I connect it

W/e Makes my computer cooler.

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winbob

· #6 · Jun 23, 2005

What is driving your pursuit of cooling madness? You haven't reported a problem, and apparently money is no object.

Just curious.

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junker39

· #7 · Jun 23, 2005

kfall, did you bleed or purge all the air out of the system before running the PC? It's usually best to run the cooling system by itself, to ensure each part, radiator, hoses, water block, reservoir, pump housing, is completely free of air. Pockets of air in the radiator and water block will keep the heat transfer from it's full potential.
If you are going to start playing around with water cooling and especially peltiers, I suggest you get a spare CPU or two. Yeah, I've heard you can't burn up a P4 but who's got the money to play like that?
If you do a google search for pc water cooling or pc extreme cooling, you'll find some amazing systems people have built. Water, freon, ammonia, nitrogen, and a few total immersion. I've built a dual peltier water chilling system that keeps things around 80*F. I don't overclock. It's just something to do.If I wanted a faster CPU, I'd buy one. I've probably wasted three or four hundred bucks and a million hours and it really doesn't cool much better than a good heatsink and fan. Good luck.

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Alex Ethridge

· #8 · Jun 23, 2005

Frankly, I don't understand the interest in water cooling a processor at all. It is very expensive and would be easily very messy in the event of an accident. And, even a water cooler needs a fan.

Personally, I got a heat-sink so large, it almost doesn't need a fan. But, just to be safe, I put a temp-controlled fan on it and in the couple of weeks I've been using it, the fan kicked on only once for about 15 minutes.

Running a 64-bit AMD 2800.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106056 (fan optional)

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kfall

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jun 23, 2005

Alex Ethridge said:
Frankly, I don't understand the interest in water cooling a processor at all. It is very expensive and would be easily very messy in the event of an accident. And, even a water cooler needs a fan.

Personally, I got a heat-sink so large, it almost doesn't need a fan. But, just to be safe, I put a temp-controlled fan on it and in the couple of weeks I've been using it, the fan kicked on only once for about 15 minutes.

Running a 64-bit AMD 2800.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106056 (fan optional)

WaterCooling is meant for overclocking and that is why I am doing it. The use of a heatsink is not recommended if your interest is overlocking.

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Alex Ethridge

· #10 · Jun 23, 2005

Overclocking is something I have never done since my work is exclusively with business systems.

I guess if your interest in overclocking, that explains it.

I don't want to hijack your thread so I'll refrain from further musings.

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