To answer both question i'm using the intel ich7r raid. My sata leads are in the right ports (the three together) I'm loading the correct drivers i got from mb driver disc and i'm loading them from a mb connected floppy which is working perfectly fine. I have really tried everything and nothing seems to work. Although i have managed to get the third raid controller to give me a successfull raid 0 setup. This is the ez back up raid but the only problem with this is that if i then put my other hard drive (non raid) into ANY Other sata port it will immediatly disable the ez as a booting option and try to boot off the drive with no os. Even if i disable it as bootable in the bios i still cancels out the ez backup. This is obvoiusly since this is meant to be as a back up and not as the main bootable os drive. So i'm still stuck for the config i want. Thanks for replys Max.