Do you support the death penalty

fire_mat99 · 2005-01-12

Do you support the death penalty yes or no :eek: I would say terrorist and serial killer are not humans and yes I support death penalty or harsh for them :) Now no I do not support torture or the death penalty on criminals the jails and hospital will take car of that And no I do not support harsh for them :eek:

linskyjack

· #181 · Jan 16, 2005

bonzobob999 said:
Well they do in the UK m8, not all but some. IMHO anybody that abuses children sexually or any other way don't deserve much of a life anyway.........go on tell me I'm wrong.

I dont disagree with you when you say that they dont deserve much of a life---I just dont believe that the death penalty is the answer. Internal incarceration is---As if prison isn't bad enough, pedophiles in prison are seen as the scum of the earth and their lives are living hell.

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fire_mat99

Discussion Starter · #182 · Jan 16, 2005

Most prison there are mean gangster in there for all type of charges .And you will get robbed or assaulted.Not little gangster but mean gangster ..

And most police and prison guard are corrupted and will use excesses of force when dealing with you and will be not nice to you

simple don't break the Law you have nothig to worry

Now I know some prison are better than others some its like being in Mexico prison

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fire_mat99

Discussion Starter · #183 · Jan 16, 2005

I voted number 1 and hope and prey you included pedophiles in that, I would have voted 2 but you don't define criminals. Also if its not to much trouble can you include drug dealers in number 1, theres a few others I'd like to include I'm my choice that appear to be law abiding citizens that over the years have indirectly killed or harmed many people. Unfortunately in the UK the death penalty is not a reality yet.........it would save a heck of a lot of money if it became one, lets face it some of these people have no place on the planet anyway.

What !! If you where the boss you being putting people that do shoplifting,theft,stealing,drugs dealers and B&E so on to death ..

Most of this people are poor uneducated have no where for help or support and no choice but to do this to live or me homeless and kicked from one corner of the the street to the next like trash can.If the schools and parent behave like the 50's there be none of this you could not drop out of school,slack or go to other grade if you failed ..

And most of these people are not violent there are some but most are not violent...

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bonzobob999

· #184 · Jan 16, 2005

You misunderstood me @fire mat99, I said "you don't define criminals" meaning that as you say lesser crimes do not require the death penalty.

but yes drug dealers I would, I don't mean the lads that sell a bit of stuff to finance there own habit..............I mean the big drug barons.

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ComputerFix

· #185 · Jan 16, 2005

I don't think deterrance is really the question, though if it were a very real threat, it may stop those on an "escalating" path.

By this, I think of Singapore, where my family lived for a time. It takes but a small quantity of drugs to be charged as a dealer, and dealers are executed. Not in decades, but in months. Are there drugs and dealers still? Yes, but most commonly caught are the ex-pat kids bringing thier dime bag of weed with them. We should be so lucky here.

On the flip side, for that major dealer here in the US, do you really think that the needle is his/her biggest threat? I'm guessing that of all the life threatening situations they face on a daily basis, that needle is far better than what the rival dealer will do.

Listing terrorists just makes me laugh. For the cowardace "leaders" maybe, but the guy you catch in the middle of an operation? Odds are good that death is an acceptable risk for them, so the death penalty isn't going to scare them.

However, I do support it. I do believe that there are those who will never change, never rehabilitate, and always remain a permenant threat. There are those who forfiet their "right to life" by thier actions. It is not a very advanced way of thinking, but I really don't care. Prison is now simply a "cost of business" or an "alternative life" for some of the more hardened. This should not be the case. For the dealer, as an example, the cost of getting caught should far outweigh the benifit of the job. For these types of people, this is really going to be the only deterrant.....

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· #186 · Jan 16, 2005

You are, of course, assuming that you have the guilty person, and that the guilty person has not set someone else up to take the rap.

The death penalty is rather final, isn't it? Once the trap is spring or the switch thrown, there is no undo button. Ahh, but how easy it is to condemn another person, especially when he's only an abstraction. I wonder whatever happened to the Fifth Coimmandment.

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fire_mat99

Discussion Starter · #187 · Jan 16, 2005

You misunderstood me @fire mat99, I said "you don't define criminals" meaning that as you say lesser crimes do not require the death penalty. but yes drug dealers I would, I don't mean the lads that sell a bit of stuff to finance there own habit..............I mean the big drug barons.

You watch too much tv most drug dealers are not rich, go to some of the townhouses you can get drug yes may be a nice car but there are not rich .And go to poor area of the city you can get drug .

Sure there are big drug dealers like the mob ,biker gangs ,organize drug dealers but they are a small persent .

Any ways it funny most of the time 90% of the drug raids are in poor section of the city sure they go after big drug dealers like the mob ,biker gangs ,organize drug dealers but it is hard for police to do the detective work becuse they so complex..

But gansters or poor people are eay for police to get becuse they are not complex.Only big drug dealers like the mob ,biker gangs ,organize drug dealers , some even do detective work on the police we had in are city the MOB spying on the police video taping them so on..

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RAM-PAGE

· #188 · Jan 16, 2005

ComputerFix said:
I don't think deterrance is really the question, though if it were a very real threat, it may stop those on an "escalating" path.

By this, I think of Singapore, where my family lived for a time. It takes but a small quantity of drugs to be charged as a dealer, and dealers are executed. Not in decades, but in months. Are there drugs and dealers still? Yes, but most commonly caught are the ex-pat kids bringing their dime bag of weed with them. We should be so lucky here.

On the flip side, for that major dealer here in the US, do you really think that the needle is his/her biggest threat? I'm guessing that of all the life threatening situations they face on a daily basis, that needle is far better than what the rival dealer will do.

Listing terrorists just makes me laugh. For the cowardace "leaders" maybe, but the guy you catch in the middle of an operation? Odds are good that death is an acceptable risk for them, so the death penalty isn't going to scare them.

However, I do support it. I do believe that there are those who will never change, never rehabilitate, and always remain a permenant threat. There are those who forfeit their "right to life" by thier actions. It is not a very advanced way of thinking, but I really don't care. Prison is now simply a "cost of business" or an "alternative life" for some of the more hardened. This should not be the case. For the dealer, as an example, the cost of getting caught should far outweigh the benefit of the job. For these types of people, this is really going to be the only deterrant.....

How interesting! When did you live in Singapore?

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bonzobob999

· #189 · Jan 16, 2005

No m8 I don't watch any TV, I know who some of these people are and where they live........and what they are prepared to do to sell this stuff and how much money is involved, most of the people you talk about (the poor) are users who sell it to feed there own habit. I don't walk around with my eyes shut believe me.

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