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Hi guys,

I have tried to defrag my HDD for ages now but theres still loads of fragmented files everywhere. Was wondering if there is any software out there that could possibly fix this problem?
 

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Hello,

Are you using the Windows' defragmenter? If you have it set to "compress old files", it will take a long time to finish. This option can be removed and I'm sure someone else will be able to tell you how, but here's a link discussing that item.

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win2000/1072401845

I defragment in Safe-Mode and it might be worth trying that way.

There are lots of stand-alone programs for defragmenting.

Diskeeper http://www.executive.com/coverpage.asp

VoptXP (not just for XP) http://www.vopt.com/

being two. You can download their "Trialware" versions to see how you like them.

Good luck.

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Hiya, I use Diskeeper and find it keeps things well and truly under control (especially like the 'Set it and forget it' mode). It's currently trialware although I'm pretty sure there was a freeware 'Lite' version released a couple of years ago, you could probably find it on Google .
 

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Hello again.

If you're confident enough to make a registry change.

Click "Start"

Type "Regedit" in the box

Press F3 to get the search box

Paste this in it

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VolumeCaches

and delete the key.

That stops compression of old files while defragmenting.

You make registry changes at your own risk and it's a good idea to export a copy of the registry before you make any changes.

Bye,
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thats cool, ive got 73% free. diskeeper still seems to be taking ages. the registry key for old file compression...is it as i posted above?

thanks for your help!!
 

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Try cleaning up the drive. Run Disk Cleanup and delete all but the last System Restore point. Unhide files and folders and go to C:\Windows , and delete all the $NTUninstaller$ files you see.

Then Download and run CCLeaner to remove a lot of the junk files which accumulate on the system.

Then download Eraser and use it to erase the free space removing all of the old cluster tips to help your drive run better.

Did my C: drive yesterday and it is running better, and starting better.

Now that you are using Diskeeper 9 Professional you can run a boottime defrag and defrag the paging file which will speed things up. You should also use DK9 Pro's inbuilt Frag-Shield to check the condition of the MFTs if you are running on NTFS.

You can also delete all of the C:\Windows\Prefetch files and let them rebuild.

Of course 512Mb of RAM, or more, helps a lot when running XP.
 

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I got rid of all the $NTUninstaller$ files, ran CCLeaner and disk cleaner. I dont have the diskeeper pro, just the Lite version.

I should hope having over a Gig of RAM should help in my case lol

thank you

p.s. Eraser,I found a website for download but mentions every other version of windows, except XP. do you think it will be alright on XP?
 

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just running eraser now. the readme file shows it is compatible with XP. have you got a screenshot of what a defrag should look like by any chance?
 

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Tuppence2 said:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VolumeCaches

and delete the key.

That stops compression of old files while defragmenting.
Penny

This key is used by the Disk Cleanup routine, and I do not believe it has anything to do with Defrag.

Ram-page

Eraser is really a privacy/security tool, in that it gets rid of any data in a cluster that was used previously, and is still there as a result of the current allocation being smaller.

Why do you think this helps "your drive run better"?

As well, why delete the prefetch files and "let them rebuild"?

The information in these files is being updated every time a process is run to make the startup more effective, and to provide better data to defrag when it "periodically" runs.
 

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No, XP.
Why?
1. DiskCleanup is XP
2. Eraser is Eraser regardless
3. Prefetch is XP
Home or Professional?

Yes, the Compress Old Files is a known problem and is covered by this MSKB Article. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;812248

I do wish people would stick to this KB except that MS makes ludicrous suggestions when it comes to acceptable minimum hardware requirements, in my opinion. Unless you just use email and surf for information rather than use the computer for multi-media. Frankly the industry is out of control, like most things, especially "fashion" pop-culture and the so-called entertainment industry which seems to consist mainly of pornography.

Just recently I was experiencing problems starting, and I have noticed this before, if I run Eraser to clean up the free space then run chkdsk and defrag I don't have any more start up problems. I haven't timed the start-up this time, but it is faster.

Prefetch is debatable with me because of layout.ini and most USED programs. It is not what I wanted.

What I want is a system that maintains the files in the order in which they install on the drive, program by program.

If the sequence of program use changes I am led to believe that layout.ini will change and start re-arranging things unnecessarily which could be time consuming. MS should just put Diskeeper Professional on the system and use the set it and forget it routine so that nobody has to bother about defragmenting.

The entire debate is a time-consuming waste of time IMHO.

This is not a real lifestyle for anybody, just an anti-social sickness.

Back to Orson Welles 1984 and "intellectualism".

Concrete jungle garbage, most of which is just glitzy cheap trash born of psychedelia or "romantic" fantasy.
 

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I did eraser, took ages!!! After that internet wouldnt work for ages until I had to restart and use Scan Disk. That took around 2 hours alone, probably due to the free space being changed so drastically.

Just defragging now, fingers crossed!!!
 
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