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I wonder if someone could help me on this one.
I am currently using Win 98 FE on a Hewlett-Packard Pavilion computer... its a PII Intel Celeron 300 mHz processor .,6Gb BigFoot HD, w/ a 17" HP monitor....
This thing cost me a small fortune ( $2300 before rebates )3 yrs ago... and has been a learning experience everyday I use it. ( its somewhat of a pain in the b***)
Well... I am now ready to either buy a new computer which I truly can NOT afford... or either upgrade this thing .
I want newer processing etc...

My problem is .... an HP is a priority system.... nothing will work with it. Not even Windows w/ out their enhanced drivers

This is the only computer I ever had so i know nothing about how others function... So I need help!

I'm looking for a low maintenance ..rock steady PC
I don't game so speed is not the important thing...although I do want a GOOD or GREAT multimedia system.
Please also... I am very serious about the upgrade... I can get a harddrive ( desperately needed the 6G is full ) but the celeron PII 300mHz is so slow... & the bios was flashed quite a while back also.
I have no idea which way to go and Imnot even sure what can be done in an upgrade????
anybody brainstorming this for me.... Im weathered out on what to do..
MONEY is by all means a factor.

Thanks

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They are all priority systems out there that are the main brands today.
Make your own system or have one made.
Where I live there are so many mom & pop PC stores in town so if you look you may have the same where you live.

I have a IBM Aptive P-200 and am going to get this
system here.

http://kingmicro.com/sales4.html

They have others here too.

http://kingmicro.com/

But you don't get a priority system or any junk software.
I will get Windows and whatever software that comes with the hardware and that's it for software.

Then I will have fun with my image programs and the wacom table that I will get also.

My older IBM MM70 monitor is getting fixed by the added warranty I got with it years ago.
But I need a monitor so I got a Viewsonic A95F Refurbish for $299.00 That $100.00 less then a new one. It comes with only a 1 year warranty not 3 like on a new one. But I got from Fry's for $39.96 a 3 warranty too.
It's a great monitor.

So I have no sound now because the IBM MM70 monitor had the speakers on the monitor.
But when I get the new PC I will have sound again.

I can't really help you on upgrading but post what you want to upgrade to and what money you want to put into it. It may be cheaper to get a new system too.

By the way my IBM was over $3000 5 years ago.
 

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thanks for replying!
thats very similar to the systems I been looking at... just can't make up my mind what to do... upgrade or buy new...

P4 or AMD
all the choices make my head swim

I would love to be able to just rebuild mine ... one step at a time over. Like add harddrive this week... keep on using it & then next month replace the motherboard..... then later something else,
ya know. So it doesn't affect the egg money so much...lol


I just don't know quite how to get started on doing it.


Guess its time to get off the PC & either get on the phone or go shopping

Thanks
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Well the AMD is cheaper and faster.
But from what I have been read the P4 Better on video encoding and that is why I want the P-4.

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,58543,00.asp

I will have to upgrade the POWER from what I have read also to 500 watts or more.

But if you are going to redo every thing in your PC it may reall be cheaper and better to get a new PC. Plus you will still have the one you have now as a 2nd PC.
That one I want has lots of room to grow.
With 9 Bays it was 7 Bays that I seen went I was there so don't know how many slots are on the front now. But the one I seen had 4-5.25 bays and 2-3.5 bays plus two more USB ports on the front.

But as you can see from the other models you can get cheaper systems. The real cheap ones had things built into the mother board so you may not want those.

Plus I get a 3Years Parts & Lifetime Labor Warranty.

I know I can build my own but I am just not up to it and I like to have a Warranty that is all from one place witch if you build your own each part has it's own Warranty.
 

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AMD computers can be very unreliable. They are usually only stable if you get AMD approved parts (power supply, case, fans, etc.) They are very susceptible to heat meaning that they can overheat easily and quickly which can cause inexplicable crashes and many headaches.

You're NEVER going to find a system that is rock steady. A Mac might come close, but a PC never will. Many things affect system stability, and one of those factors is user education. If you don't know what you're doing, you can really foul things up.

You're likely not going to be able to get a new motherboard and use your existing case. Most computer manufacturer's cases (HP, Compaq, etc.) do not accept different motherboards.

Unless you're very computer literate and know a lot about computer hardware, drivers, jumpers, cables, etc., don't even think about trying to build your own system. Look for a local computer shop in your area that builds computers. They will probably provide a good warranty and some tech support.

Also, the word you're all looking for is "proprietary" not "priority". Here's a dictionary.
http://www.webster.com
 

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Thank you... I appreciate everything you've said

heres a little quid pro quo

Max.... I said priority

1 a (1) : the quality or state of being prior (2) : precedence in date or position of publication -- used of taxa b (1) : superiority in rank, position, or privilege (2) : legal precedence in exercise of rights over the same subject matter
2 : a preferential rating; especially : one that allocates rights to goods and services usually in limited supply <that project has top priority>
3 : something given or meriting attention before competing alternatives

Yes it was suppose to be proprietary

1 : one that possesses, owns, or holds exclusive right to something; specifically : PROPRIETOR 1
2 : something that is used, produced, or marketed under exclusive legal right of the inventor or maker; specifically : a drug (as a patent medicine) that is protected by secrecy, patent, or copyright against free competition as to name, product, composition, or process of manufacture
3 : a business secretly owned by and run as a cover for an intelligence organization

how stupid of me
 

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what about a PIII... I've seen some good buys on those systems

What version of Windows?

Don't think I want XP... its to early in the game .
 

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The higher end PIII's are quite fast and handle graphics intensive functions well. I am currently running an WinME on a 866 PIII, Award bios, 512MB RAM, Twin maxtor 7200RPM diamond drives,
GeForce2 Mx Graphics card, and 17" Viewsonic monitor.
I keep my startup group trim and run heavy sessions in graphics.
I have never had it stumble......take that back once when I was colorizing an old 8x10 wedding picture file size 76MB I ran the session for approx 6 hours before I started to have resource problems. Approximate load time for above picture is about 4 seconds into graphics program.
I agree you should not spend the money upgrading the HP. The cost would be almost the same and you will find many of the needed changes will not fit into the box. I have an ATX case
which allows for allot of expansion and personally think components stay cooler with the extra space between them.
There are allot of good deals out there now. The current system I purchased a year ago sold for $1700.00 and is now selling for around $900.00. Unfortunately most brand name PC mfgs do not offer ATX cases in their canned units, so hewee's suggestion of smaller PC store may be an advantage since you can tailor your system. Also I would use the current unit networked and as a backup to the main system.
Just my thoughts.
Dave
 

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A lot of folks are gonna seriously disagree about
AMD being unreliable. I'm very satisfied with my
333 and 450 AMD computers. I do have an AMD
approved motherboard, but everything else is
generic.

I can't vouch for AMD's newer, faster chips, but
I'm sure there are plenty of folks who can.

Cheers, Mac
 

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This is just what I been wanting to hear. You guys are giving me everything I need to know. Glad I posted this.

I was thinking AMD (asus A7M) & then the heat problem starting nagging at me as I stay online all the time. So what Im thinking is if I get AMD then use a larger tower & maybe an extra fan???
thats why I also started thinking PIII
P4 is too new...& cost to much

Networking the new & this old one together sounds like a good plan too. I must admit I hadn't even considered that.


Another question I have.... is about my monitor.

HP Pavilion 17" viewable ... it needs a new graphic card I believe cause i've done all the updating , drivers for Ati & for the monitor as well... still having some problem w/ color displays & font settings.
I have a black border that won't fill in properly also. Adjustments are resetting themselves after i take time to set it correctly.
So to avoid buying another, at approximately $300 - $500... can I continue to use this ( Hewlett Pack ) monitor?
Cause if all I have to buy is the CPU then I might be able to handle things financially a little sooner than I thought.

I also want a CD-burner ... any thoughts on that??

You guys are great to help me with this.... & I do appreciate it so much :)

Oh & I don't want Windows XP.... not yet anyway. So am considering Win 2000. or Win 98SE

your input is greatly appreciated

Thanks,
:) Savvy
 

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Hey SL, :)

You're gonna want a case with good cooling
ability no matter what CPU you get. Usually
the larger power supplies have larger exhaust
fans which translate into more air flow. Plus
you never know what you'll add on later, so
plenty of power is always good.

One thing you DO NOT want is a tower with
the exhaust fan at the bottom. Heat rises,
and these cases are already fighting an
updraft to pull the heat out.

I don't think you'll have a problem using your
HP monitor, but someone else may know more
about this.

Cheers, Mac
 

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No reason not to use the HP monitor for the main system but what would you do for the other then? Believe it or not I purchased a Sony 17" Trinitron technology and a dell 17" with trinitron technology at www.ubid.com for $100.00 plus $36.00
shipping each. Both were refurbished units from the factory and are exceptional in quality. My Step Daughter is using the Sony for college and love it for her autocad and home construction/furnishing programs. As far as a CD RW there are many very good units out there. I have installed several different brands and have had no problems with them. Just stay away from leading edge technology since it has not been time tested.
So what if you wait a few extra minutes when you burn a CD.
As far as software Win98se Win2000 horse apiece your preference.
Dave

Note: If you do consider Ubid stay away from the private customers and stick with Ubid as seller.
 

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Thats another thing i had not considered was auctions... Hmmm... could be very promising.

I'll have to check into that one for sure...

Davey, I wish your step daughter all the luck in the world in her field... depends on where she'll be living on what she will be able to do after graduating,
I am a cerified CAD Technician
Studied the architectual field ( <-- preferred ) & mechanical.
I loved it . I went back to school & eventually graduated.
Thats been 10 yrs ago

I live in a small town in Va... & I was never able to get a job using my skills. :(


Im glad to know I got someone to ask these things..... it makes a big difference.

Thanks again

Savvy
 

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will keep that in mind Max
 

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I want to thank each & everyone of you who chatted here about my needs of a computer.
I did go on uBid last night & bought one

Hopefully I did... it said I won a bid but I haven't heard from them yet.

Im not sure if I did right or wrong... I just got tired of waiting to see what I could find & was starting to get the feeling it really doesn't matter what you get if its top of the line cause one has as many problems as the other...... don't they????

Well to late now anyway.

this is it
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Sony VAIO PCV-RX463DS Pentium 4 1.4GHz 128MB
40GB/CD-RW/DVD-ROM/56K/NIC/Windows Me

Bidding Information
Lot #: 6011449
Auction Type: Traditional with BidButler
Reserve Price: No Reserve Price
Condition: Manufacturer
Refurbished
Maximum Bid Price: $1819
Qty Available: 3
Starting Bid: $9
Incremental Bid: $10
Auction Closes On Or After: Sun Nov 4, 2001 08:20 pm PT .

Monitor and camera not included. Sample image only.
See specifications below.

Product Description:
Features And Benefits

VAIO PCV-RX463DS

The VAIO Digital Studio™ is the ideal PC for those who play as hard as they work. You can make your own movies -- and your own destiny.

Designed with Digital Video editing in mind, and featuring the latest in Intel® processors, the Digital Studio models have enough power to drive your most demanding applications, or play the latest games.


Ethernet Interface
10Base-T/100Base-TX Fast Ethernet

Expansion Bays
Two 5.25" Half-Height (two occupied)
One External 3.5" (occupied)
Two Internal 3.5" (one occupied)

Sony Original Software
DVgate™
Media Bar™
MovieShaker™
OpenMG™ Jukebox
PictureGear™
Smart Capture
VisualFlow™

Other Software Applications
Adaptec Direct CD™
Adaptec Easy CD Creator™
Adobe Acrobat® Reader
Adobe Photoshop® Elements
Adobe Premiere® LE
Apple QuickTime™
ArcSoft PhotoPrinter 2000 Pro
Quicken® 2001 New User Edition
Microsoft® Outlook® Express
Microsoft® Word 2002
Sonic Foundry Sound Forge® XP 4.5
Tomb Raider Chronicles

Online Center
America Online®
CompuServe® 2000
EarthLink TotalAccess™
Netscape® Communicator®
Prodigy Internet™

VAIO PCV-RX463DS

Notice
Monitor not included.

Requirements


Detailed Description
Computer Type Minitower
Modem Type v.90 56Kbps
Sound Card Integrated
Video Card nVidia® GeForce2 MX&#8482; AGP
Video Memory Standard 32MB
Processor Speed 1.4GHz
PCI Expantion Slots 3 (2 available) plus 1 AGP (0 available)
Parallel Ports 1
Serial Ports 1 plus 1 6-pin and 1 4-pin i.LINK (IEEE-1394)
Video Ports 1 VGA
Mouse Ports 1 PS/2
Processor Type Intel Pentium 4
Keyboard Ports 1 PS/2
USB Ports 4 (2 front, 2 back)
Operating System Windows Me (Millennium Edition)
RAM Type PC800 RDRAM
CD ROM Read/Write Speed 12x/8x/32x write, re-write, read (max.)
DVD Speed 16x max., 40x max. as CD-ROM
RAM Standard 128MB
RAM Expandable to 512MB
Level 2 Cache 256K Integrated On-Die
Hard Drive Capacity 40GB Ultra ATA/100
Floppy Drive Capacity 1.44MB


Manufacturer Part Number
PCV-RX463DS

Warranty
90 days from Sony

Package Contents
CPU, power cord, mouse, keyboard.
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I didn't like the thought of WinME but I'll wait & see how it is ... then do something different if needed.

So...does anybody think $699 was to much?

thats what I got it for

thanks again for all your help


A special thanks to Davey for the great idea... still got to do something bout a monitor though...lol

:) Savvy :)
 

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Very Nice! Don't worry if you purchased under the Ubid area of items, and (not in the private sales area) your ok. Well you are the owner of a Sony Viao. I have purchased two system from them already one for my Step Daughter and one for my Mother-in-law. Both are working flawlessly. Also don't fret about returns. We purchsed a VCR that came defective and they took it back with an immediate replacement also the Compaq for Mom had a sound problem I thought and they sent a Tech to her house to check it out. The outcome of that was the unit required powered speakers. Udid bid exchanged the speakers. You got a super price for that unit. Early this year the same unit was going for $1100 to $1200. If you are planning on allot of graphics I would go to crucial's web site when you get your unit and purchase another 256MB of Ram. Recently I purchased 128MB and it cost me $19.00.
Keep us posted on the unit.
Dave

Note: If unit is Sony Viao Gray you can pick up a monitor at Ubid for a really good price. I think Some Viao's have the speakers as part of monitor.
 

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How long does it take for uBid to contact you?... they still haven't .

I do want to learn to do graphics... got into webpaging this summer & really enjoyed it til geocities said I had to much traffic & wants me to pay them... Now Im depressed about it & can't make myself get busy & move them or anything.. its like it turned me off or something.....lol

As for the RAM... I do realize I need more.... Im using 160MB's on this one... so i know when I get that & all that I may try to do... I will need at least 256 & possibly twice that ... ( depending on the cost ) I just wished they'd contact me ... i might can get it thru them too???

Anyway... its not what I had planned to buy... it was a spur of the moment type thing . I was tired of trying to figure it out.
But at this point I feel like I did ok. Shipping charges is alot.. $55 I think?

BUT LEAST...NO MORE STRAIN ON THE BRAIN.....LOL ( except for a new monitor which is why I am anxious to hear from them )

Thanks,

Savvy :)

Davey said :
Note: If you do consider Ubid stay away from the private customers and stick with Ubid as seller.
I bought it from uBid not a private company
 

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There will be virtually no contact from Ubid. If you go into Ubid and look under your personal section you will see info on where your order is and what order number it is. It will say order in processing and then you will have order shipped with tracking number.
Yes $55.00 shipping is a little cash but you have to remember it is insured and does weigh a little.
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thanks Davey

:D Im as anxious as a kid at Christmas...lol
 
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