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Problem is that c+a+d only works part time...there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to why...just that sometimes it's not there to get out of freeze up...is there anything I can do to check it out or repair?
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Hi arty62

Sometimes when you get a "Total freeze" the only option is to switch the power off - you need to find the cause of the freeze and rectify it - a few details about what you are doing when it freezes may help us to sort it out for you - it may be spyware or a virus - something easy to sort out - and then again it might not.

If you post your startup list we may be able to spot something

Please post your startup list by doing the following :-

Please go here and download startuplist 1.51 :-

http://www.lurkhere.com/~nicefiles/startuplist151.zip

Download to any folder or your desktop
Unzip the zipfile
Double click the exe file
go to Edit - select all - copy - and paste the results in a new post here

steam
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Run startuplist 1.5 from http://lurkhere.com/~nicefiles and post the list it produces.
Sounds like you may have a virus/keylogger that is killing those keys.
StartupList report, 1/20/03, 12:09:48 PM
StartupList version: 1.51
Started from : C:\UNZIPPED\STARTUPLIST151\STARTUPLIST.EXE
Detected: Windows 98 SE (Win9x 4.10.2222A)
Detected: Internet Explorer v5.51 SP2 (5.51.4807.2300)
* Using default options
==================================================

Running processes:

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSGSRV32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MPREXE.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\mmtask.tsk
C:\WINDOWS\EXPLORER.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\MICROSOFT HARDWARE\MOUSE\POINT32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DDHELP.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\PSTORES.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\PANDA SOFTWARE\PANDA ANTIVIRUS PLATINUM\APVXDWIN.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\PANDA SOFTWARE\PANDA ANTIVIRUS PLATINUM\FIREWALL\PAVFIRES.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\PANDA SOFTWARE\PANDA ANTIVIRUS PLATINUM\PAVPROXY.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\WINTV\WINTV2K.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET EXPLORER\IEXPLORE.EXE
C:\UNZIPPED\STARTUPLIST151\STARTUPLIST.EXE

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Autorun entries from Registry:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

ScanRegistry = C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun
LoadPowerProfile = Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
POINTER = point32.exe
SCANINICIO = "C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Antivirus Platinum\Inicio.exe"
APVXDWIN = "C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Antivirus Platinum\APVXDWIN.EXE" /s

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Autorun entries from Registry:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

LoadPowerProfile = Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
PAVFIRES = C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Antivirus Platinum\Firewall\PavFires.exe

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C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.INI listing:
(Created 20/1/2003, 6:29:4)

[rename]
NUL=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\_iu14D2N.tmp

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C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.BAK listing:
(Created 18/1/2003, 17:35:0)

[rename]
NUL=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ImageDrive.cpl

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C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT listing:

SET BLASTER=A240 I2 D1 H7 P330 T6
SET CTSYN=C:\WINDOWS
C:\PROGRA~1\CREATIVE\SBLIVE\DOSDRV\SBEINIT.COM
SET PATH=C:\PROGRA~1\PANDAS~1\PANDAA~1;%PATH%

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Enumerating Browser Helper Objects:

(no name) - C:\PROGRAM FILES\ADOBE\ACROBAT 5.0\READER\ACTIVEX\ACROIEHELPER.OCX (file missing) - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3}
Yahoo! Companion BHO - C:\PROGRAM FILES\YAHOO!\COMPANION\YCOMP5_0_2_3.DLL - {13F537F0-AF09-11d6-9029-0002B31F9E59}

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Enumerating Task Scheduler jobs:

Tune-up Application Start.job

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Enumerating Download Program Files:

[CV3 Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WUV3IS.DLL
CODEBASE = http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/R1108/V31Controls/x86/w98/en/actsetup.cab

[Register Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\HWUTILS.DLL
CODEBASE = http://content.hiwirenetworks.net/inbrowser/cabfiles/2.5.19/Hiwire.cab

[Live365Player Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\PLAY365.DLL
CODEBASE = http://www.live365.com/players/play365.cab

[YInstStarter Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\YINSTHELPER.DLL
CODEBASE = http://download.yahoo.com/dl/installs/yinst.cab

[CCMPGui Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CCMP392.DLL
CODEBASE = http://64.124.45.181/chaincast/proxy/CCMP.cab

[sys Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\PCPITSTOP.DLL
CODEBASE = http://www.pcpitstop.com/pcpitstop/PCPitStop.CAB

[iCC Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\PCPCONNCHECK.DLL
CODEBASE = http://www.pcpitstop.com/internet/pcpConnCheck.cab

[ActiveScan Installer Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\ASINST.DLL
CODEBASE = http://www.pandasoftware.es/activescan/as/asinst.cab

[{11111111-1111-1111-1111-111111111111}]
CODEBASE = http://207.246.124.105/cabs/ROOSTER3001/TPS108.cab

[Update Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IUCTL.DLL
CODEBASE = http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/CAB/x86/ansi/iuctl.CAB?37618.3122916667

[QDiagHUpdateObj Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QDIAGH.OCX
CODEBASE = http://h30043.www3.hp.com/dj/qdiagh.cab?223

[DiskHealth Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\CONFLICT.1\DISKHEALTH.DLL
CODEBASE = http://www.pcpitstop.com/pcpitstop/diskhealth.cab

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End of report, 5,315 bytes
Report generated in 0.080 seconds

Command line options:
/verbose - to add additional info on each section
/complete - to include empty sections and unsuspicious data
/full - to include several rarely-important sections
/force9x - to include Win9x-only startups even if running on WinNT
/forcent - to include WinNT-only startups even if running on Win9x
/forceall - to include all Win9x and WinNT startups, regardless of platform
/history - to list version history only
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arty62

I see nothing in your startup that could be causing you problems - all I can suggest is a general cleanup

Delete temp, temporary internet files, history, cookies ( you will have to re-log in to sites which use passwords )

Please Download and install SpyBot,

http://www.lurkhere.com/~nicefiles/spybot14.exe

click the online tab to search for and download the updates, then shut down and relaunch SpyBot.

Go to the Settings tab > File Sets, and uncheck 'System Internals' and 'Tracks' .
These aren't needed for our present purpose, and you can always experiment with them later on.

Finally, after closing down Internet Explorer, click 'Check for problems', and have SpyBot remove all it finds 'Fix selected problems'

you may have to run spybot more than once to clear everything

Remove everything pre-ticked in Red

steam
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Thanks for help steam...you up early/late this am?...have already done all of above, prob persists....agree that spybot a great program!!....any further suggestions appreciated....rt
Start button, run, then type msconfig and ok....uncheck the process autoexec.bat and config.sys boxes, restart and see if you still have the same problem.
tried it...no difference....scandisk frooze up, c-a-d not functioning....

(btw...items in process ini....sb emulator...what is?
himem mgr}
Hi arty62

I assume you can reboot and then use your computer for a while - including Ctrl-Alt-Del before it freezes ?

First of all - always run scandisk before defrag or you could end up in trouble

Close all programs using Ctrl-Alt-Del except "systray" and "explorer"

turn off your screensaver

disable your anti-virus

Then run scandisk first

Then run defrag

If it still wont complete do it in safemode

steam
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alright steam...ran scandisk (took 3 tries)....did defrag.....tried scandisk....froze....c-a-d not functioning....could this be related?
Hi arty62

Correct me if this is not what you did

ran scandisk - it restarted 3 times - but then completed

ran defrag and it completed

ran scandisk again - everything froze

and you did all this in less than 20 minutes ?

How big is the h/d - I wouldn't have thought it possible to complete a defrag so quickly

when exactly does it freeze ? - when you use a particular program ?- if so which ones ?

Is it after a certain amount of time ? - it could be the cpu overheating

try and tell us exactly what you are doing when it freezes

It could be so many things - the more we can picture your computer at the time this is happening - the more suggestions we can make

steam
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Q&A:
1)
scandisk didnt start 3 times, took me 3 tries to get it going.
yet, scanned and defragged...use voptme for defrag....had done earlier today so was fast.
2) yes...went back to scandisk and machine froze at scandisk screen....c-a-d not functioning
cpu/system temp 78deg F HD=30gb, 16 free
3)Latest freezes occurred onwebsite, at scandisk screen(often) and once on this site (tips&tricks) c-a-d not functioning

freeze ups kinda random...
found this on the net under "Scandisk keeps freezing."

Possible solution: Run scandisk in windows mode - twice.

1. The first scan select Advanced and check "Copy cross-linked files" - this will create separate clean copies of any that exist, without the conflict.

2. Now repeat the scan, but this time under Advanced, check "Delete cross-linked files" - this will remove the affected original cross-linked files.

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You might also want to try a "thorough" scandisk instead of just a "standard"

I realise this is asking you to do things with the very thing which is not working - but I'm afraid it's all I can come up with at the moment

I have to get of the net in a few minutes - so I wish you good luck


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Steam....did as directed...opened whole new hill of beans....have to leave for a while...will get back later to fill you in....thanks....rt
Steam...tried above without joy....even did in safe mode...no change....scandisk freezes often. Have searched high and low, but no solutions in sight....BUT I can live with it....I would really like to have my ctrl+alt+delete back full time!!!....Willing to pursue any and all suggestions....thanks....rt
Thought I had found JOY when I reduced RAM to 512mb....for about 10 min freezes stopped, and I could load scandisc from several different menus....then machine started freezes again....c+a+d no display, but does shut down with 2 taps....ytried adjusting vcache to 358400 (70%512mb) but machine slowed to crawl....reset vcache to 163274 (dont ask why) and machine seems about same s before....appreciate any farther help...will go do more research too....thanks again all for suggestions......rt
Originally posted by steamwiz:
found this on the net under "Scandisk keeps freezing."

Possible solution: Run scandisk in windows mode - twice.

1. The first scan select Advanced and check "Copy cross-linked files" - this will create separate clean copies of any that exist, without the conflict.

2. Now repeat the scan, but this time under Advanced, check "Delete cross-linked files" - this will remove the affected original cross-linked files.

steam:

I don't know where you found this, but it is not accurate.

Scandisk with the option set to Copy Crosslinked files, if it finds any, will copy the cluster that is involved in the crosslink, and give it to all files involved. What this does is create perfectly valid looking files to scandisk, etc. BUT, at least one of these files is now corrupted since it has a cluster in it that belongs to another file.

Running scandisk again, had better not find any more crosslinked files since they were all "fixed" in the previous run. IF more files are found to be crosslinked, your disk directory is in very serious trouble!

If you set the option to "copy", and crosslinks are found, then you need to review all files involved in the problem and determine if any (like doc/txt/etc) are salvagable. And if exe/sys/vxd/etc files are involved, they need to be restored.

If you choose the delete option, you have now deleted one file that was perfectly OK, and again all of the rest need to be restored.
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Whitphil....I did follow steams suggestion....youre right, no files to delete on 2nd run...however, where do i find files copied? And how to cure corrupted files?
WhitPhil

Here's the link :-

http://forums.zdnet.com/group/zd.Wi.[email protected]@[email protected]?EXP=ALL&VWM=&ROS=1&OC=150

there's not much information out there fir this problem, and I've run out of ideas

This was posted 4 months ago and no-one has contradicted it - if you think it is wrong maybe you should post a warning on their site as well

steam
alright guys, if we've corrupted a file with the 2scan procedure, how do we identify corrupted file and repair/replace?....also my last 2 bootups had windows finding registry prob and fixing same...something new to me....btw, c+a+d will now shut down, but still no display.....also, I did make a registry backup 4 daysm ago and have it in my documents folder...could it be of some use perhaps?....rt
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