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CPUproductivity has fallen after cleaning+newGPU-PSUinstaled

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Dimos

Discussion Starter · May 6, 2018

I had the following system :

Mobo : Foxconn Flaming Blade GTI
CPU : Intel i7 950 3.07 GHZ
GPU : AMD Radeon HD 7750
Storage : WD green 500 Giga
PSU : Seasonic 520 Watt
OS : WINDOWS 7 64-bit

Recently I bought a GTX 1050 Ti

And the day I installed the GPU in my system I also cleaned up my PC. When I removed the CPU fan to clean the old paste I saw some (little) whuddyballs /lintballs under the CPU shield/cover so I opened the locket and cleaned them up , then I locked it back up, placed paste and finished the cleaning like I do every 6 months (this is the first time i open the CPU locket). When I booted the PC it showed me "New CPU detected" and asked me to check the CMOS if my memory stands correct . And it showed me this message every time I booted the PC , so I went to the BIOS and opened the CMOS category. I didn't change any settings in there but I did save and exit , after that it never showed me this message again.

later that day I noticed that my CPU power and productivity was cut in half , before it was using about 300 Watt at full load and it was producing about 3 GHz and now it uses about 145~150 Watt and it produces about 1.6 GHz. So I though it might have been the power supply the reason that the CPU was using about 150 Watt.I thought the PSU might not be strong enough to support the system with the new GPU. So I changed my PSU and bought the Corsair TX-M Series TX 750M and installed it.

I installed it and then I booted the PC and it started normally . But even now the CPU is still seems like "locked" in about 150 Watt and produces about 1.6 GHz is there something u can recommend me please ?? I would really REALLY appreciate your help to restore my CPU power in its initial state. Thanks in advance for your time .

To check the CPU power and productivity stats i use CPUID HW Monitor (64-bit and always updated)

To sum up here is my system's hardware now :

Mobo : Foxconn Flaming Blade GTI
CPU : Intel i7 950 3.07 GHZ
GPU : GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Storage : WD Green 500 Giga
PSU : Corsair TX-M Series TX 750M

SYSINFO STATS :

Tech Support Guy System Info Utility version 1.0.0.4
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate, Service Pack 1, 64 bit
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07GHz, Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 5
Processor Count: 8
RAM: 8183 Mb
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, -1 Mb
Hard Drives: C: 465 GB (74 GB Free);
Motherboard: Foxconn, Flaming Blade GTI
Antivirus: 360 Total Security, Enabled and Updated

By the way here are some Photos of my Bios and CPU power settings :

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crjdriver

· #2 · May 6, 2018 (Edited)

Did you pull the motherboard out of the case to R&R the cooler and cpu? If not, there is a very real possibility that you damaged a motherboard pin OR you did not get the cooler/hsf installed correctly.
Next go to the support page for your motherboard;
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=motherboard&U=en-us0000458
Download and install the foxconn utility for monitoring temps and voltages. It should be called aeigis or aeigispanel. Once you have that installed, post the following info; cpu temp, 12V, 5V, and 3.3V values. Do this twice; once under a normal load and once while running prime95 [free download] Let prime95 run for at least 2min to stabilize temps and voltages.

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Dimos

Discussion Starter · #3 · May 6, 2018

crjdriver said:
Did you pull the motherboard out of the case to R&R the cooler and cpu?
Next go to the support page for your motherboard;
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=motherboard&U=en-us0000458
Download and install the foxconn utility for monitoring temps and voltages. It should be called aeigis or aeigispanel. Once you have that installed, post the following info; cpu temp, 12V, 5V, and 3.3V values. Do this twice; once under a normal load and once while running prime95 [free download] Let prime95 run for at least 2min to stabilize temps and voltages.

No didn't pull the mothermothermout of the case.

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Dimos

Discussion Starter · #4 · May 6, 2018

Dimos said:
No didn't pull the mothermothermout of the case.

It doesnt wanna start up i tried to reinstall reboot pc and still doesnt wanna start up
Is there any other program that can help???

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Dimos

Discussion Starter · #5 · May 6, 2018

Because the Foxconn utility program would not start i did the tests with CPUID HW Monitor

These are the stats at normal load :

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And these are the stats after 3~4 min while prime is running :

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Dimos

Discussion Starter · #6 · May 6, 2018

I didnt take out the CPU from the socket or the motherboard out from the case. What i do to clean my PC is :
I open the case panels and i blow it with air (can spray) then i take of the CPU cooler and i clean the old paste with isopropal alcohol and cotonswabs no fingers or touching and then i wait for the isopropal alcohol to dry out then i put the new paste and i put the CPU coller back in (and im always doing gently actions i never use force) but this time when i took the cooler off i saw some lintballs/wudyballs undet the bracket that locks the CPU in the socket . I unlocked it , i opened the bracket and blew(with the can spray) slowly the dust off (slowly so the CPU doesnt fly off , the CPU didnt move at all) then i locked the bracket back up , placed paste on the center of the CPU , placed the cooler on top and pushed the legs on cris-cros patrern and they clicked in place and also i usualy press the cooler legs 2-3 times gently after they click in place again in cris-cros pattern to make sure they are good in place.(To sum up every 6 months i clean the Case and old paste like i said before but this time i just upened the CPU bracket and locked it again like normal).

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crjdriver

· #7 · May 6, 2018

You have your answer [IF hwm is accurate which it may or may not be] Look at the temp; 82C which is way too hot. Max temp on that cpu is 67C according to the intel spec sheet. The cpu is throttling to prevent overheating.
The pushpins on an intel cooler are NOT designed for repeated installs and removals; twice maybe three times is about it; then you need to replace the pins or cooler.
When you do the cooler in the case, you cannot inspect the bottom of the motherboard to make sure all pins are fully seated AND you have to push pretty hard to seat the pins. With the board out of the case, you can inspect the back of the board AND you can support the board with your hand while pushing the pins into the board.

Here is what I would do;
1 Purchase either new pushpins or a new cooler
2 Pull the motherboard out of the case
3 Remove the cooler and clean the cpu. If reusing the old cooler, clean that as well
4 Install the new/old cooler with new thermal compound
5 Reinstall the motherboard
Done.

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Dimos

Discussion Starter · #8 · May 6, 2018 (Edited)

crjdriver said:
You have your answer [IF hwm is accurate which it may or may not be] Look at the temp; 82C which is way too hot. Max temp on that cpu is 67C according to the intel spec sheet. The cpu is throttling to prevent overheating.
The pushpins on an intel cooler are NOT designed for repeated installs and removals; twice maybe three times is about it; then you need to replace the pins or cooler.
When you do the cooler in the case, you cannot inspect the bottom of the motherboard to make sure all pins are fully seated AND you have to push pretty hard to seat the pins. With the board out of the case, you can inspect the back of the board AND you can support the board with your hand while pushing the pins into the board.

Here is what I would do;
1 Purchase either new pushpins or a new cooler
2 Pull the motherboard out of the case
3 Remove the cooler and clean the cpu. If reusing the old cooler, clean that as well
4 Install the new/old cooler with new thermal compound
5 Reinstall the motherboard
Done.

And imagine that i have this PC for at least 4 years. I really apriciate your help and time my friend and i would like to ask some final questions :

1) You suggested me to take off the motherboard from the case when im about to clean the PC. Curently I would say that I'm "afraid" to touch the motherboard (about shorting out issues), so should I stay that way and treat with care or I can be more relaxed and touch it knowing that it will be safe (out of power ofc)(and also when I turn off the PSU and pull the plug out off the wall I also push the Power button) because i've seen many people touching motherboards with theyr hands and work fine.

2) I have a small case that I have the side panel off so that it can breath because it has a very small hole in the front and all the case cable pass through there its a multirama case in case you know it . Should i get a new case with new air cooler ?

3) Should I look for an Air or Water(Case replacment is needed)(at long time it may leak or fail) cooling solution ?

4) If you have the time what would you suggest.

5) Optional but really hard: My father has a wood workshop do u think it would be worth to make a wooden case with good air flow ? (+i could place a big fan as a side panel with a filter + custom fan slots +controlled air flow). IF its worth what should I be aware of ?

These are some question that i wanted to ask long time ago but i could not find and expert to tell me .

Thats all my friend I wish you the best to your life !!!

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crjdriver

· #9 · May 6, 2018

1) You suggested me to take off the motherboard from the case when im about to clean the PC. Curently I would say that I'm "afraid" to touch the motherboard (about shorting out issues), so should I stay that way and treat with care or I can be more relaxed and touch it knowing that it will be safe (out of power ofc)(and also when I turn off the PSU and pull the plug out off the wall I also push the Power button) because i've seen many people touching motherboards with theyr hands and work fine.

I pull motherboards very often and I have never had a problem. Use some common sense and handle carefully. If you have never done this before, take some pics of how cables/connectors are routed. When you reassemble, look at the pics.

Should I look for an Air or Water(Case replacment is needed)(at long time it may leak or fail) cooling solution ?

I am not a big fan of water cooling [even though I have a water cooling system on my ryzen system] A good cooler is the coolermaster 212 cooler. Not too expensive and it does a good job. Not the easiest thing to install AND you have to measure your case to be sure it will fit.

Optional but really hard: My father has a wood workshop do u think it would be worth to make a wooden case with good air flow ? (+i could place a big fan as a side panel with a filter + custom fan slots +controlled air flow). IF its worth what should I be aware of ?

That is up to you however it will take some time and probably a lot of trial and error to build a case out of wood. I have seen a few and they are pretty cool. In fact my home theater system is in a wood case however I purchased the case. I can barely hammer a nail semi-straight.

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