Tech Support Guy banner
Status
Not open for further replies.
1 - 20 of 28 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,880 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
After many years of using AOL, I recently installed cable and got rid of AOL (hurray!!), so I'm now using OE 5 as my e-mail client. Problem is, I had a lot of e-mail groups in AOL that I'd like to bring over into OE's address book. I know I can't import them (which is puzzling given the fact that Gates hates AOL; I would think he'd want to make it easy to switch to OE), but is there some way I can copy all the e-mail addresses in an AOL group and paste them into an OE group?

One of the nicer things about AOL's groups is that you could do just that. You could (e.g.) create the groups in Word, then copy and paste the entire group into the address book. OE appears only to accept group entries only one by one.

Any ideas?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,336 Posts
Not knowing a thing about AOL .. I need to ask if the address files are .wab
If so you can import it .......There are a few other kinds you can import as well.
(I just exported mine to a text file so i have it backedup)

go to OE & File/import... make the selections & see if it works

Good Luck,
Savvy :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,880 Posts
Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Savvy Lady: The files in AOL's /Organize folder have the extension ".arl". Will OE import those?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,336 Posts
The only thing I see you can do is... file your aol addressbook as a text file & then from OE import it. File/import/other addressbooks then locate the text addressbook & let it import it.... Im not sure if it would set it up any better than if you simply mailed yourself the text file.... but at least you would have the addresses.

As you know... AOL is in a league of its own.


:) Hope this helps

Savvy
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,880 Posts
Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Originally posted by SavvyLady
The only thing I see you can do is... file your aol addressbook as a text file & then from OE import it. File/import/other addressbooks then locate the text addressbook & let it import it.... Im not sure if it would set it up any better than if you simply mailed yourself the text file.... but at least you would have the addresses.

As you know... AOL is in a league of its own.

:) Hope this helps

Savvy
Right after posting my reply, I thought of the text file approach, too, so copied the addresses from my old AOL address book (about 150 addresses in this one group), pasted them to Notepad (the commas were already there because that's how AOL separates addresses), added the "@aol" to all the addresses where that was missing because they were in the same domain, saved the file, and went through the import agony (checking each address, selecting "E-mail address", clicking OK, and after doing all 150, clicking "Finish". At that point, it said "Import process completed". No error messages, everything seemed to go perfectly.

Only one problem: Not a single address made it into my address book; they're simply not there...in ANY folder. What went wrong?

BTW, I can't send me a message with the addresses in it because I pulled the plug on AOL 10 days ago.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,336 Posts
Hey.... thats what I would have done too...

Hmmmm.......
I hope you still have the notepad file ... I think you said you saved it.
When i said mail it to yourself it was .... to get it where you could save it to your files....your MyDocuments or wherever you saved it to..
Now...What I have in mind for you is, to just to cut & paste each address / name to a new contact. You can also save it to a group list like Example: AOL Friends then when you send group mail it will be used to send to all of them in one mailing. As you recieve mail back from these people you can add their address to your address book by clicking on the e-mail & hilighting it ... then right click & on the menu click add Sender to addressbook.
Otherwise...to get them into the addressbook on OE I think you will have to copy & paste each one... time consuming I know...

Maybe someone else here will give some insight to this.

To do that go to addresses... then click on NEW .. then
choose Contact, Group or Folder

Hopefully group mail will help... especially if you tell everyone to respond so you can add them to you "normal addressbook". I know thats what I'd do

Hope you understand this... if not ask again.

:) Savvy

To do that go to addresses... then click on NEW .. then
choose Contact, Group or Folder

Choosing group will set up a one name group mail list as I spoke of above. ( AOL Friends )

also... if you think you saved it but can't remember where... go to your notepad & open it then open files & see if you can locte the addresses in the directory... if not that directory try another .
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,880 Posts
Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Originally posted by SavvyLady
...What I have in mind for you is to just to cut & paste each address / name to a new contact. You can also save it to a group list like Example: AOL Friends then when you send group mail it will be used to send to all of them in one mailing. As you recieve mail back from these people you can add their address to your address book by clicking on the e-mail & hilighting it ... then right click & on the menu click add Sender to addressbook.
Otherwise...to get them into the addressbook on OE I think you will have to copy & paste each one... time consuming I know...
Cutting & pasting...one by one...is what I was trying to avoid by importing. I don't understand why the import didn't work. The screen appeared where you check each name, then tell it what the item is (e-mail address), click OK, go to the next address, etc. As I said, no errors, and at the end it said import completed. WHY DOESN'T IT WORK is the real question?

BTW, import seems always to say I should use a ".csv" file, but refers to it as "Text". If you open a .csv file, it opens in Excel, not Word or Notepad. I painstaking moved each address into a column of cells, save the file as a .csv file, and tried importing that. Doesn't work from the git-go; the screen to choose what you want to import is BLANK. Only get that initial screen if I try to import a comma separated .txt file...but at the end, it hasn't imported anything.

As for capturing the e-mail addresses on incoming mail, my options are set to do that, but on the only one I received and replied to where I did not have the person in my address book, it did NOT capture the address.

Does OE work? It doesn't appear to capture reply addresses, and won't import when I go through the procedure it prompts me to do (giving no error messages). Should I consider using Eudora or something else?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,336 Posts
Hi DK
I was in the process of editing and adding more to what I said above when you posted again...

here is what i said
also... if you think you saved it but can't remember where... go to your notepad & open it then open files & see if you can locte the addresses in the directory... if not that directory try another .
Ok now that seems to be a litlle irrelavent now.

Im not sure whats going on....

Im going to seek help from someone that knows more than I do.

hang tight... this might take a few mins

Savvy
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
51,087 Posts
You probably imported to the wrong address book. Once you get the AOL addresses to a text file, its easy to import directly to OE. I would try importing first to an excel file to make sure you get everything the way you want it and then export that to a text file, then imort in OE. Try putting one entry in an excel file, exporting that, then importing to make sure it works.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,880 Posts
Discussion Starter · #10 ·
Originally posted by Mulder
You probably imported to the wrong address book. Once you get the AOL addresses to a text file, its easy to import directly to OE. I would try importing first to an excel file to make sure you get everything the way you want it and then export that to a text file, then imort in OE. Try putting one entry in an excel file, exporting that, then importing to make sure it works.
No, I tried to import to my rover1638 identity address book (which is NOT my main identity). I copied one address into an Excel spreadsheet, and saved it, then Saved as a .txt file, and tried importing it again. The address appears in the window that asks you to check which item you want to import, so I checked it. It then asks what field this is, and I select E-mail address. I then check OK or Import (don't remember which), and it says Import Complete. But no name appears in my address book.

FYI, between the last message I left on this board and your reply, I downloaded IE 6.0, which automatically updated my OE to version 6.0. Made no difference.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,336 Posts
This is in HELP from OE

To import address books

You can import address book contacts from other Windows Address Book files (.wab), as well as from Netscape Communicator, Microsoft Exchange Personal Address Book, or any text (.csv) file.

For Windows Address Book

On the File menu, point to Import, and then click Address Book.
Select the address book or file type you want to import, and then click Open.
For all other address book formats

On the File menu, point to Import, and then click Other Address Book.
Click the address book or file type you want to import, and then click Open.
If your address book is not listed, you can export it to either a text (.csv) file or an LDAP Directory Interchange Format (LDIF) file, and then import it using that file type.


My next question is when you open the OE address book after you have completed importing, ... do you open the shared contacts & Main Identity Contacts?

Clutching at straws here.....


Savvy
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,880 Posts
Discussion Starter · #12 ·
Originally posted by SavvyLady
This is in HELP from OE

My next question is when you open the OE address book after you have completed importing, ... do you open the shared contacts & Main Identity Contacts?

Clutching at straws here.....

Savvy
I've seen all this from Help. I do what they say, it seems to go OK, but NO RECORDS wind up in my OE (which is now ver. 6.0, which I downloaded this afternoon; has made no difference)

I actually created a separate folder to import these into, and that's what was open when I started the import process. No records came into that folder or any other.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,336 Posts
Im as stumped as you are.

I just don't know :confused:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,336 Posts
Thanks BrianF,

Just wanna make sure he can get someone to help that knows more than I do about it.


:) Savvy
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,059 Posts
a csv file (comma separated file) is basically a text file which, surprise, has each word (or field) set apart from the next by a comma

if opened in excel it generally would have 3 values (ie first name, last name, email address) per line (or cell) arranged vertically.

when you saved the file in excel, you said you saved as a text file - try saving it as a csv file (5 or 6 lines down from the default .xls in the save as pull down menu)

also:
did you do a search for a *.wab file - yo may have saved the imported file as a .wab but it's not in the right place to show up in OE.
it will be someplace like C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Identities\{xxxxxxxx-A624-11D5-BF2B-xxxxxxxxxxx}\Microsoft\Outlook Express
OR
C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book

the first one is the OE current one, the second is the one set up when you installed OE - they're the same but stored in different places

if you find another one - probably a couple hundred Kb in size, you can use the import in OE to bring it in

worst case: email it to me, i'll do a quick convert and send it back as a csv or wab file
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,880 Posts
Discussion Starter · #17 ·
Originally posted by jbcalg
a csv file (comma separated file) is basically a text file which, surprise, has each word (or field) set apart from the next by a comma; if opened in excel it generally would have 3 values (ie first name, last name, email address) per line (or cell) arranged vertically.

when you saved the file in excel, you said you saved as a text file - try saving it as a csv file (5 or 6 lines down from the default .xls in the save as pull down menu)

also:
did you do a search for a *.wab file - yo may have saved the imported file as a .wab but it's not in the right place to show up in OE.
it will be someplace like C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Identities\{xxxxxxxx-A624-11D5-BF2B-xxxxxxxxxxx}\Microsoft\Outlook Express
OR
C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book

the first one is the OE current one, the second is the one set up when you installed OE - they're the same but stored in different places

if you find another one - probably a couple hundred Kb in size, you can use the import in OE to bring it in

worst case: email it to me, i'll do a quick convert and send it back as a csv or wab file
Brian: I have created the address file as .txt and as .csv. If saved as a .csv, when I go to import, the window that opens where you're supposed the check each address you want to import, and tell it where to put the information (what field, which in my case is only e-mail address; there is no name associated with the e-mail addresses), the window is blank -- doesn't recognize any fields. If I save it as .txt with commas between each address, it DOES recognize the fields. I dutifully check them, tell it that the field is to go into the e-mail address, do that for all 150 entries, click finish, and it says import completed...but there's no evidence of any additions anywhere.

Is this happening because there is no name? I.e., MUST OE have a name as the handle to import addresses? If so, I'll have to enter those by hand (Do you enter them sequentially in the same file, like "Don Taber, [email protected], Joe Schmo, [email protected]", etc.?)

I have only one .wab file under \WINDOWS\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book. There is also a FOLDER in my [email protected] software directory with a long number for a name (C:\@home\tioga\backup\DO\Don Taber.wab\97114_58993af99_). If I open the .wab file under \Windows, it is a duplicate of what I see when I open it from OE (because it IS what OE opens!).
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,059 Posts
yes, OE needs at least one other reference with the email field

looking back through your posts - was it ever suggested to reinstall/repair OE?

with these difficulties, something's not right

you may want to save that .wab file somewhere, and reinstall/repair OE (depending which options you get when you go to control panel / add/remove)

upgrade to OE 6 a good idea too - IE6 and OE6 seem to work a lot better than earlier versions

offer to look at the file and try to make a wab out of it still stands

extra thought: when you look in your address book
-the existing entries show up in the main identity folder, right?
-is there anything in the shared contacts?

btw - just noticed the wilmington DE address - spent a few foolish summers in rehoboth many years ago
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,880 Posts
Discussion Starter · #19 ·
Originally posted by jbcalg
yes, OE needs at least one other reference with the email field

looking back through your posts - was it ever suggested to reinstall/repair OE?

with these difficulties, something's not right

you may want to save that .wab file somewhere, and reinstall/repair OE (depending which options you get when you go to control panel / add/remove)

upgrade to OE 6 a good idea too - IE6 and OE6 seem to work a lot better than earlier versions

offer to look at the file and try to make a wab out of it still stands

btw - just noticed the wilmington DE address - spent a few foolish summers in rehoboth many years ago
JG: If you go back a couple of messages, you'll see that a couple of days ago, I downloaded and installed IE 6, which automatically replaced my OE 5 with OE 6. So I'm extremely dubious that there's anything wrong with OE, since OE 5 is gone/ overwritten by 6. And I never get error messages saying something isn't working. The solution to the import problem seems to have been simple: I need a name to go with the address, or it won't take it (makes sense, since that's how it lists the contacts, not by e-mail address).

I'm going to try adding names to the comma-separated .txt file. Before doing so, how should they be added? E.g., does OE regard the last name, middle initial, and first name as 3 fields (when you enter a contact on the New Contact form, you enter them in 3 fields), so do I have to enter for example "Taber, Donald, K., [email protected], ...(repeat this format for each address)", or is "Donald K. Taber, [email protected]" sufficient (don't see how, if I want to sort my list by last, first)?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,880 Posts
Discussion Starter · #20 ·
JG: Since we need a name in the .txt file, I edited the first two addresses in the file prefacing them with the last name and first name, comma separated. When I try to import, it dutifully asks what field to put the fields in, so I checked the first field and selected Last name; checked the second field and selected First name; checked the e-mail field, and selected E-mail address. Then I clicked Finish. In every case "Import Field" was checked.

I got NADA! Everything says they're being imported...no error messages...but they're not anywhere. I'm attaching the file I used so you can see it (Crew.txt) and tell me what I'm doing wrong.
 

Attachments

1 - 20 of 28 Posts
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top